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⌈ Secret Post #4555 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Tom Ellis' entire family, (father, sister, grandfather, uncles) are all Pastors and apparently love the show.

But I know my Aunt who is a Minister would have over reacted to it when she was heavily in her evangelical phase, so I can understand you being cautious.

I hope you find people to talk to about it though.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Lol, didn't know that about Tom Ellis. Now I'm remembering how the idea of a female minister made our church people gird their loins when I was growing up. Thank goodness that's not so much a thing anymore, but it makes me think how random the the rules we followed were.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Tom Ellis in an interview -

“My dad’s a pastor. My uncle’s a pastor. My sister’s a pastor. I grew up on the very human side of Christianity, so messages in the household I grew up in were about peace, love and being understanding of everybody, which I think is quite cool. And with regard to this [Ellis playing Lucifer], they’re all super-excited I’m doing it.”

Seems nearly every interview brings it up now, I think a lot of interviewers are familiar with the Hell and Brimstone style of christianity and expect his family to have disowned him somewhat.

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[(Anonymous)]

Lucifer's portrayal and the way he's written is actually more accurate than anyone getting offended would understand. It's not offensive if you know your stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope you find people to talk to too, OP. It's so frustrating and sad when people get so caught up in the quest for purity that even exploring their own religion's mythology is threatening and wrong. I know people like this too, so I get why it's risky reaching out.

[(Anonymous)]

I figure many of those people have never seen the show and have no idea what it's actually about.

Wish I could talk to you, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

My work wife is Christian and she always gets huffy when I mention enjoying this show. When I told her it was based on a comic book which has been out for decades, it floored her.

[(Anonymous)]

That's hilarious. :D

[(Anonymous)]

I find it odd you mentioned 'The Good Place' as something you avoid, if only because I found they sidestepped a lot of the major religious buttons, rather (sorta) carefully. Of course I get it, but the entire premises is based on jokes and lies, that I would't think would offend people to that extent.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I've known Christians who get mildly offended if any media portrays Christianity as good and valid but just one option among many. Because to them, if a piece of media doesn't blatantly portray Christianity as the ultimate, only answer, then they're saying Christianity isn't special. Their whole worldview is built around the idea that no one else's faith or philosophical system is as real and potentially true as theirs. So even the mere idea of politely not making a commitment to endorsing a specific worldview for the purposes of teaching philosophy on a sitcom would make them uncomfortable.

Like at the end of Wrinkle in Time, when they're listing all the previous "lights". I know that some people find the inclusion of Jesus to be preachy (because the author was a Christian) but I know just as many conservative evangelical types who frown at that scene because Jesus is listed as just one among many great lights.

So I can see a certain type of Christian getting slightly offended at a show which is trying not to offend anyone's worldview.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus, that doesn't sound like they have "Christian background" - it sounds like they take their faith too seriously to watch a silly show. And really, avoiding The Good Place for that reason...?

(It reminds me of an Irish lecture I had during our studies who asked us whether we weren't offended by The Life of Brian. My classmate, the most religious of us all, just blinekd and looked at him and said something I found extremly apt - "One's faith would have to extremly frigile for one not to be able to watch a comedy")

[(Anonymous)]

*lecturer