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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-07-12 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #4571 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4571 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


Marked for spoilers all the way down!








01. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things]



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02. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things]



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03. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things]



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04. [SPOILERS for How to Train Your Dragon]



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05. [SPOILERS for Jessica Jones season 3]



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06. [SPOILERS for Toy Story 4]



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07. [WARNING for antisemitism/discussion of genocide]

[Game of Thrones]


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08. [WARNING for torture, trauma]



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09. [WARNING for mention of rape, assault]



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10. [WARNING for discusssion of abuse]













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Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate to break it to you, OP, but we didn't actually see Hopper die. If you don't see the death, chances are they didn't die in the first place, which is very different from a character straight-up dying and then the writers going "lol nvm" and bringing them back later. This is very common in fiction. His "death" is ambiguous at death and there's a 50/50 chance he survived. There was even a possible reference to him at the very end in that weird Russian prison. I usually loathe character death but this one didn't affect me any because it was pretty obvious he didn't actually die and I'll be disappointed if he did.

If it's enough to make you stop watching, tho, good riddance I guess.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-13 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
This. When character deaths aren't shown on screen there's a high probability that they didn't really die after all. That's been true since pretty much the dawn of time.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-13 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Especially in sci-fi/horror. There's a reason there's a 'did you see the body??" trope a lot in those styles.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-14 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm guessing there's a 0% chance Hop's dead. We didn't see the death, and we don't even know for sure what being at the center of that stuff would do. The reference to the American in the Russian prison seemed to me to be definitely Hopper. Who else could it be? Except a new character, I guess, but why would they tease a new character so vaguely in the last two minutes of the season?

Plus, his emotional arcs (especially the ones he shares with other characters) are not completed. Whatever, some people didn't like the Joyce-Hopper and El-Hopper stuff, but you can't say they felt wrapped up. Joyce especially--Joyce trying to move on but wondering what might have been when suddenly Hopper returns six months later and they have to decide whether to really give a relationship a try is grade A premium soap. All of Joyce's boyfriends die is not.

Personally, I might quit watching if Hop doesn't come back, so I guess they're losing a viewer either way.