[ SECRET POST #4574 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4574 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

In a similar Avatar vein: I never got Zutara.

It probably doesn't help that I heard about it being the fandom ship before I watched the show, but even when I got into the show I... didn't get it. There was nothing in the show that even vaguely hinted to it ever being a thing, and Katara spent most of the show aggressively hating Zuko because of how he'd treated Aang.

Fyi I don't ship Kataang, really didn't care one way or another, but to me it seemed like the Zutara shippers saw something that just wasn't there and got angry at the show for not doing something it was never going to.

And it's not that I don't have hero/villain ships, I do, but this was one I never saw because it didn't fit either character. Tbh I thought Zuko/Aang made far more sense as the hero/villain ship given the actual canon.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with all of this.

Bonus: I think a lot of Zutara's appeal came from fans using Katara as a self-insert and not wanting to admit it.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[philstar22]

I agree. I shipped Zuko/Mai and Sokka/Suki and Azula/Ty Lee. I sort of ship Aang/Katara as an end goal. As in, they are too young on the show, but I'm totally fine with them eventually marrying. Don't care one way or another. But Zutara I don't like at all.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I never got Zuko/Mai, all I saw was Zuko desperately trying to fill his role as a 'Prince' by adopting the first relationship presented to him, or rather what Azula presented to him. Obviously Mai had a crush, but Zuko was never seen to reciprocate it. Time and time again it shows them at each others throats, because their personalities do not match. That their relationship is hostile at the very best. Even ignoring the radical backstory shift on Mai's account, the series never shows them legitimately comfortable with one another.
Even at 'Boiling Rock', Zuko literally locks her up, with little to no regret, just in case she might rat them out. She loves him, no doubt, but it's very far reach for me to think he did little more than settle by being with her, trying to do what he expects a Fire Lord should do- and if not just for some babies ever after shite.

(I got caught up with phrasing this as a secret, so hopefully this isn't as hostile as I think it sounds;;)

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[philstar22]

Not hostile at all. I don't agree with you, personally. I always thought Zuko seemed the most relaxed and comfortable and able to be himself when he was with Mai (I mean, apart from Iroh, anyway). He didn't have to hide himself from her. He didn't have to be a proper prince. He could show her his whole self, even the angry side.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

It was that stupid scene where they were locked in the Earth Kingdoms cult dungeon, or something. Honestly those episodes were some of the worst in the entire series.
I plain and simply hate Katara. Her relationship with Zuko literally exists with her blaming him for everything bad that happened in her life, that he's responsible for all crimes of the fire nation. But most of all, him 'lying' to her in the earth prison, which he didn't even do.
What makes it worse is that in their little episode together, she is so fucking selfish that she doesn't even consider to bring Sokka with her... y'know her /brother/ who, I don't know might actually care about going after the murder of /their/ mother! Zuko has to babysit her the entire time, his only line being 'maybe cold blooded murder isn't a good idea'? Ugh... I'll stop now.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. I don't agree with your take at all. I think she was protecting Sokka. If things went bad, Sokka would be safe. That's why she didn't bring him along. And of course she blames Zuko. He represents the Fire Nation for her. He's the one who is closest to her age and is there. If Azula were there, I would guess she'd blame Azula more. But Zuko is there, so Zuko gets the blame. And Zuko was a part of it until recently. Zuko was a villain until recently. He did some terrible things. So she isn't wrong to doubt him.