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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-10-05 05:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #639 ]


⌈ Secret Post #639 ⌋

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Re: 126

(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Do a Google search. Hikikomori. Moocher.

I'm glad the secret maker has the disposable income or parental support to avoid real life and real work for so long. I wish I had money out the ass so I could just play in fandom all day instead of working and studying. Really, the secret maker is what's known as a "loser" in polite society, no matter how the secret maker tries to dress it up.

And I like going out of my way to look down on people like you. But you make it so easy, sitting there like that.

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the real losers are the ones who mindlessly accept the world the way it is even when it destroys their souls.

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I LOL'D A FUCKING LOLACAUST! Cute, Anon ♥ ROFL good luck with that.

[identity profile] jaclynhyde.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean the ones who produce so that the dreamers can sit around on their asses and still be able to eat and have a place to live?

There are ways to change the world while still providing for yourself--volunteer work, creative arts as a hobby, finding even a low-paying job that's something important to you. And if you have to do "soul-crushing" work to support yourself while you're working on this so be it; that doesn't define who you are. And isn't it worth it to have the means to do things that matter to you?

(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Produce what? Most people's jobs don't produce anything that's actually necessary.

volunteer work, creative arts as a hobby, finding even a low-paying job that's something important to you

The OP could do all that without finishing high school.

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, they produce tax revenue to pay for benefits to people who really can't survive in the world of work, for whatever reason, so don't look down on them too hard...

(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I would look down on them less if they didn't look down on the people who can't survive in the world of work, and make life even more miserable for the ones who are already struggling.

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, sadly often true.

[identity profile] jaclynhyde.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, there's a lot of unnecessary crap out there, but most people? How many people are working shitty jobs to make the things others benefit from? Just off the top of my head, sanitation workers, construction workers, factory workers, etc. And that's not to mention the non-shitty jobs that are really important, like doctors, teachers, police, and so on. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to do a "productive" job, and instead do something you enjoy--hell, the world would be a worse place without the entertainment industry and writers and theater people--but to look down on the people who make a living is utterly absurd. Are the OP's parents the real losers, for giving her money to live? All types are needed to make the world work, and I'd like to see you (I'm assuming you're the same anon) function in a society where no one "mindlessly accepts" the world.

Oh, I didn't mean the dropping out of high school specifically. It makes me twitchy, cause I think having a high-school level knowledge of writing and science and so on is a very good thing to have, but people can accomplish things (and educate themselves) without a high school degree. It'll be a lot harder for the OP to find jobs to support themselves, though.

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah of course it's impossible that they might have some problem like depression or chronic fatigue or something that makes "real life and real work" way more difficult for them than it is for people like you.

Fail.

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Guess what, Anon? I have clinical depression and anxiety disorders. But I sought treatment. Now what do you say?

Sensitivity fail.

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Not any of the anons, but treatment doesn't help everyone enough for them to function in the "real world".

Awareness fail.

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Who, me or the anon I was replying to? If me, please explain?

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU for pointing out what would be obvious to anyone with 2 braincells to rub together.

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
this. i have clinical depression and ptsd and i hate it when people tell me to get help, like that will magically fix all my problems. i'm on meds, i'm in therapy, i'm still fucked up. just trying harder doesn't make people better. some people are "treatment resistant," people all have different problems and different triggers, just because one person can get over something or cope with something doesn't mean the next person can. it's like with any other disability.

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I lol'd.

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, aren't you a worthless piece of shit?

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ain't it neat? ♥

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(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello. I am not the same anon as all these other anons but I'm a cowardly anon all the same, and I think I love you for having the guts to say what you've said without being anon (here and elsewhere).

Re: 126

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally agreed. This is one of those issues that pisses me off. Perhaps it's because I know a lot of people with mental health problems of one kind or another, but christ, there's nothing more annoying that people who say "well I had xyz condition and I got better, so you should too" (or "my spouse/friend/parent/person I know" had it).

Of course I've no idea if any of this applies to the secret's OP. It just pisses me off when I see that attitude expressed.

Re: 126

(Anonymous) 2008-10-05 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
So, of course, that means that anyone with XYZ condition or ABC condition or QRS condition doesn't have to worry about getting better, or even try to get better, because not everyone can get better, so why bother?

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, no. How did you get that from what I wrote? It just means they shouldn't be made to feel even worse just because the help they've had hasn't "fixed" them.

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[identity profile] misfratz.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, all those bloody depressives going round not even trying to get better because being suicidally miserable is just so much fun! They're almost as bad as people who die of meningitis. I mean, my friend had meningitis and got better, so they're obviously just putting it on for attention. And why bother with that when you could so easily just act like an arse on the internets?

You might like to google 'slippery slope fallacy' to help you make even more convincing arguments in future, since you seem to be instinctively using it already.

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTC.