[ SECRET POST #4614 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4614 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 43 secrets from Secret Submission Post #661.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I started laughing at the part about how the far-right is influencing antis to be antis.

You do know fandom is hugely left, right? Do you really think the left can't draw lines in the sand about what's appropriate in fiction just as easily as anyone else???

[(Anonymous)]

It does seem slightly absurd.

[feotakahari]

We already know some TERF activists receive financial support from fundamentalist Christian groups. Antis probably aren’t influential enough to get money, but they can at least be seen as fellow-travelers.

[(Anonymous)]

This sort of assumes that antis are a monolith.

And not just antis, but anyone that someone somewhere has called an anti, because that's really what we're talking about here.

[feotakahari]

I’m really not liking the whole reversal of “antis call anyone they don’t like a pedo” into “anti-antis call anyone they don’t like an anti.” Aside from how I don’t see “anti” used that much against anyone who isn’t harassing folks*, it reminds me of the argument that calling someone a “cracker” is just as bad as calling them the N-word.

*Vampireapologist got called an anti without harassing anyone, but if I recall correctly, they actually accepted the term.

[(Anonymous)]

it reminds me of the argument that calling someone a “cracker” is just as bad as calling them the N-word.

No one said anything about being "just as bad".

The term is used in a very imprecise way, which to me makes it much more difficult to assert that antis are monolithic, and I think that's a problem if your argument is that antis are fellow travelers for TERFs and far-right Christians. Especially in the context of a secret that already has a very wide definition of what an anti is.

[(Anonymous)]

are you implying that TERFs and far-right christians are monolithic, because uhhhhhhh

[(Anonymous)]

They're not monolithic, but the differences among them aren't really relevant in this context. What's relevant about them in this context is their political beliefs and the motivation for their actions - the fact that they are all far-right or TERFs (respectively). With the understanding that people on F!S are implicitly opposed to those ideologies.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that a lot of the thought-patterns align.

TERFs are largely left too, and they love to target young gay and lesbian people to get their thought-patterns to be bi-, trans-, and queerphobic.