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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-09-01 03:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #4622 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4622 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Clue (1998 video game)]


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[Back to the 90s/Alternative 2538]


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[Star Wars: Rebels]


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[Dream Daddy]


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[Little Women adaptation]


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[She-Ra and the Princesses of Power]











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Re: What movies scenes made you the most uncomfortable?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-09-02 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. Because it is almost always done by male directors/writers/producers. Almost always involves an older man teaching her about sex. And her sexual awakening always means she learns about "the power she has over men" and stuff like that rather than exploring her own sexuality.

Something written by women for women and not filmed in a male-gazey way I might be interested in. But I've yet to hear about anything like that.

Re: What movies scenes made you the most uncomfortable?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-02 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
"she learns about "the power she has over men" and stuff like that rather than exploring her own sexuality"

Is it possible for those to be the same thing? Or am I a freak/brainwashed by the patriarchy?
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Re: What movies scenes made you the most uncomfortable?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-09-02 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
It can be, but it doesn't have to be. Except that movies tell you they are the same thing. And are movies made by men and generally filmed in very male-gazey ways. So those stories make me personally a little uncomfortable. Not saying everyone has to dislike them. Just that I do.

Re: What movies scenes made you the most uncomfortable?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-02 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that can be part of it, but also should include learning things like sex can be fun, sex (and masturbation) should feel good, sex should be enjoyable for both (or all) participants—and not just or primarily because it gives some women power over some men.

I mean, if power over men is most/all of what a woman gets out of sex, that sounds really boring for her and in a fictional context sounds like she’s some kind of femme fatale, which is a weird trope to invoke for a presumably young teen girl just figuring out sex.

Re: What movies scenes made you the most uncomfortable?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-05 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I look at it like this: there's a person's sexuality (what turns them on) and then there's a person's sex appeal (their attractiveness to other people).

For some people, the two are connected. A lot of people assume the two are connected for all women - I recently saw a female blogger explain female sexuality by using a quote from a female writer that basically said "men are turned on by women, women are turned on by being desired by men." Obviously this was true for the writer and the blogger, so they assumed it was true for all women - and a lot of men assume this too.

For other people (including some women) the two aren't really connected. Like I have stuff that turns me on - mostly weird fictional stuff that has nothing to do with being desired by men or anyone. I can also see the appeal of using sex-appeal to get stuff or power, but in that situation, it's the "getting stuff and power" that makes that attractive - it's not a sexual turn on for me at all.