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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-10-24 05:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #658 ]


⌈ Secret Post #658 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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103.
[Looking For Group]


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104.
[Johnny the Homicidal Maniac]


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105.
[Fanfiction; Voldemort Kaulitz]


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111.
[The Penguin of Death]


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113.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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114.
[Death Note, Mello]


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[MCA, KH II]


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117.
[Gurren Lagann]


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[Fringe]


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[Psychonauts]


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[Avatar]


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129. [broken]


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130.
[Ashes to Ashes, Shaz Granger]


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[Code Geass, C.C.]


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[Whitest Kids U' Know]


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[Nabari no Ou]


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[Kamen Rider Kiva]


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[BoA]


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[QI, Jeremy Clarkson, Sean Lock]


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[Resized]


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[Star Trek]


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[Fast and the Furious]


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[I suggest Kamina]


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[Code Geass]


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[Ken Russell's The Devils, Father Barre]


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[Supernatural]


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[Avatar]


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[Stephen Colbert/Kathleen Parker]


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[Death Note]


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[identity profile] sami57peace2u.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
UM, I NEED THIS FIC ASAP, KAY?

Re: The rage is strong with me today

[identity profile] musouka-manga.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
As a relationship, Nia/Simon is pretty piss poor, let me just get that out of the way. I don't like the couple, didn't find it moving on a personal level, and outright guffawed when it turned out Simon's "deepest inner desire" didn't even have Nia anywhere near it. (I don't ship Simon with anyone else, that just struck me as amusing considering the circumstances) Their actual romantic interaction is limited to a few scenes, and we never get a concrete sense of what the one means to the other, aside from the fact that they are in Love.

However, the entirety of Gurren Lagann tends to use emotional shorthand like this, as you know. The characters are more important as embodiment of themes and ideals than as actual characters, with notable exceptions being Rossiu and Kamina.

In that respect, there is one interesting, unique thing about Simon/Nia, and that is his refusal to override her choice to die at the end of the series. Nia, as someone who had been used her entire life, including by the narrative in regards to Simon, got the ability as last to choose her own destiny, and Simon loved her enough to let her go.

That's pretty much it.

Re: 109

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly! Oh, my god. It is absolutely disgusting to think of someone that hateful about dissenting opinions.

Re: 142

[identity profile] kinosino.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm not saying it makes any sort of good sense, but if people are going to split hairs about it, I'll just shrug my shoulders and move on.

104

[identity profile] lifeofgatsby.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Go get some help, seriously. You've got all kinds of issues you need to work out.

Being "completely emotionless, sexless, stone cold" is not a good thing. The vast majority of therapists are in that occupation to help people, they wouldn't do it if they didn't care enough.

Re: The rage is strong with me today

[identity profile] 7thisgod.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Nia developed plenty through the show, I believe. She had a purpose in the narrative, thematically speaking, even beyond helping Simon to develop. She started as naive, sheltered, so-spoiled-she-doesn't-know-she-is-spoiled princess without much information on the world beyond the absolute reality Genome had provided her with. She starts shaping herself through her interactions with the cast and comes to appreciate Simon because of his love for Kamina and his dedication to any task. To her understanding, Simon's statue of Kamina is the very definition of humanity. Genome's abandonment stripped Nia from her identity, it took away all she believed was correct and Simon appears to give Nia something to believe in, something to validate her own existence.

It just grew from there, really... and that's more than enough to guarantee their relationship as compelling. Besides, let us not forget that maybe Nia saw a little bit of Genome in Simon; you can't afford ignore the possibilities of a father complex when it comes to Gainax shows.

Regardless, perhaps that's not for you and I understand it's just silly to argue about personal preferences; but there is plenty of material to understand the development of their relationship.

[identity profile] jaclynhyde.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
127. YES YOU DO

YOU CAN SET SQUIRRELS ON FIRE

131. YES YOU DO

/helpful

109

[identity profile] lifeofgatsby.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Sad thing is, there are people who agree on killing those people.

#109

(Anonymous) 2008-10-24 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
You must be a freaking genius to post a death threat on a public comm like this. If I had even the tiniest inkling about who you are, I'd turn your name in to the Secret Service.
harukami: (Dubious Beast is dubious)

Re: 107

[personal profile] harukami 2008-10-24 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but what makes me like a character might make someone else hate her. What makes someone else hate a character might make me like her. Preferences are subjective.

I thought you meant ruin something, ie, in a role in the story -- ruin a relationship or a situation, but I know not all 'character flaws' will do that.

And again, where did you get this definition from...? Did you just make it up or were you gathering it from somewhere? Because I do know there's a long literary history of character flaws which exist for empathy and sympathy instead, while still being flaws... (ex, the entire concept of hubris revolves around pride you can understand in the situation, but a pride which will cause a downfall, only you still feel for that character because they had so much and their arrogance so understandable, etc). Character flaws eliciting sympathy or love is where the entire concept of catharsis as a literary device comes from -- personally, I find Ahiru a very cathartic tragic heroine to follow.

Re: 143

[identity profile] germaricanmix.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That's because Kenshin is just THAT awesome.

Re: The rage is strong with me today

[identity profile] 7thisgod.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That's because episode 26 wasn't about their "deepest inner desires", probably. It was about them recognizing the infinite possibilities of this Universe, it was about them losing themselves in consciousness.

And we indeed get a perfectly clear sense of what Simon and Nia mean to each other. Simon finds purpose in Nia. He is just a digger, without much direction. Nia gives him something to fight for. Nia finds validation, she finds something to make concrete her ethereal and senseless existence.

As for the second paragraph, Simon and Nia have plenty of actual characterization. Just because it wasn't delivered in concrete exposition it doesn't mean it isn't there. They use visuals and actions to make a point, you know.

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[identity profile] muse-mistress.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Awesome secret! Can we be friends? I want to read that XD.

Re: 109

(Anonymous) 2008-10-24 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen people wishing she'd die, but not actually saying they'd kill her.

109, 129, 155, 156

[identity profile] rainbow-cnxn.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
109) I'm calling troll because the age demographic for F!S is too young to have freepers.

125) Hatesex much?

155) [I suggest Kamina] LOL.

156) He's asexual, and she acts like his mother.

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
104 - Don't be so sure that a therapist wouldn't really want to help you. If you realize you have problems, and you want to do something about them, then take advantage of the fact that there really are people in the world to help you.

109 - So many kinds of fail. Either you're telling the truth, and fail. Or you're a troll, in which case, it's still fail. I'm not really sure which way is worse.

119 - Because clearly, who you ship is a better window into your sexuality than who you're actually attracted too. You're a better troll than 109, at least.

143 - It's okay. They're just that hot.

[identity profile] candlejack.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
116. ... WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS DOING HERE!? *HISS* BURN IN HEEEELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *SOBS INTO HANDS*

122. ... And now it's stuck in my brain.

141. THAT EPISODE KILLED ME, it was so fucking cracky, I loved it.

142. Oh, I just call manga anime-based comics and comics occidental ones, so I rather agree with this secret.
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145, 152

[identity profile] fruitsgrow.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
145. Do. Not. Go. There.

152. Ohgod, he is cute. ): Don't worry, OP. We'll be pervs together.

Re: The rage is strong with me today

[identity profile] musouka-manga.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Genome's abandonment stripped Nia from her identity, it took away all she believed was correct and Simon appears to give Nia something to believe in, something to validate her own existence.

This is why her character is hampered by being so closely associated with Simon's mid-development, because you would think she would have had a similar crisis of faith since her world was supposedly shattered like Simon's. On the contrary, the show only pays lip service to the idea that being kicked out of her father's house had led to any major amount of suffering on her half.

Her character arc isn't "finding a purpose" as much as it is "learning the ways of the world". For some reason, Nia pops out of the box equipped with boundless optimism and never questions or loses that for no discernible reason, even when every single other cast member has their own individual crucibles as they make their way through the series.

Re: to the mod

(Anonymous) 2008-10-24 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Because the mod here sucks and always has. Latest example = posting secret 109 when it could clearly get hir and the comm in big trouble if someone decided to report it.

Which... hmmm... I might just do that myself.

[identity profile] muse-mistress.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, I'm amused too. But what do you mean "supposedly"? They definitely didn't...

Fun secret though :)

[identity profile] kinosino.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
THX 4 RUBBING IT IN

/still so behind

DAMN YOU SQUIRREL MAFIA
ext_24538: (chae yeon - smile. =))

[identity profile] xbriyeon.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
105. What the hair..? o_o

123. Jensen Ackles ftw. ♪ IT'S THE EYE OF THE TIGERRR~ ♫

136. I'm almost the same lol. I comment sometimes? Horray mediafire <3

146. I used to be one of those annoying OMFGBOAIZTEHBESZT!!!1!1 (aka. retarded) fans.. *shame* But I still like her. Not as crazily as before though fortunately. I mean, her new Japanese stuff is mostly annoying happygolucky stuff or *shudders* another ballad, but but at the core she's still a great singer and dancer (though her nasal tones do annoy me lately). *shrugs* Even if she fails with her US debut it'll still sell in Japan and (a bit) in Korea and the rest of Asia lol. And she's already in the top 50 for several foreign countries in the iTunes charts (Italy even O_O..) Personally I think EAT YOU UP is really catchy though the lyrics aren't that great, but I miss her Korean stuff the most. =[ And lol I don't really care if she turns out to be a bitch.. ? (I am aware that a majority of people who've said they've met her said she was cold.) if I ever meet her (which I probably won't lol) because she is really hardworking.. I mean, Hyori is known to be extremely kind to her fans which I respect, but she really can't sing or act. Erika Sawajiri is now known for being a bitch, but she is an amazing actress who actually has talent.. o_o 152. WHOA WHOA. 159. I'm still mad at him for killing off Bela. Yes, I actually liked her lol. [/endrant]

164. Yeah, but she still killed people for a boyfriend. -_-

Re: 107 & 109

[identity profile] wazira-sharira.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Another person who hates calling canon characters Mary Sues, yay. I think of a Mary Sue as a character who not only has some unrealistic speshul thing, but doesn't fit well into the universe of canon because of it. If they're a part of the canon universe from the beginning, how can they not fit well into it? There are badly written characters, but they can't be misfits into a universe they were created for in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2008-10-24 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
119. WTF

121. Who is that on the right?

127. Whoa, this game has a fandom? I kind of ship it too, for entirely shallow reasons.

132. Seeing pictures of C.C. was what made me start watching CG.

134. I know. I used to dislike Nite Owl/Rorschach because their personalities and looks were both EW, but now with the movie actors... D:

136. I usually don't either. It's not like I'm not grateful, but I usually think "Oh, I'll comment after I download in case it doesn't work for me or whatever." But then by the time the download's finished 5 minutes later, I've forgotten.

142. I think the categories are needed because the word "manga" has come to mean "comics from Japan" which is not the case for OEL and manhwa. It's the same as how I see people refer to American comics, French comics, etc. Because they're made in different countries, there are some pretty big differences stylistically.

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