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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-03 02:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #4685 ]


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Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the part where you go from sounding like you just have really strong opinions about a topic to sounding like a troll. No, alcoholics don't routinely claim that alcohol is their medicine. That's not a thing. Yes, if they're addicted to it they need it, in that quitting a serious alcohol addiction cold turkey will quite possibly kill them without additional medical intervention. No, the reasoning is not the same, which is why there aren't any research studies on the effectiveness of medicinal vodka. But do continue, I'm sure you're about to tell us about your brother who OD'ed on weed any minute now.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry you're not familiar with it, but people with alcohol issues referring to their "medicine" is a cliche. And no, I don't know anyone who OD'ed on weed. I do know people who smoke too much weed to the point of it negatively impacting their jobs and relationships, but at least the side effects aren't anywhere near as dangerous as say, meth.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. It seems like they're on some kind of anti-weed crusade and it's just bizarre.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. I favor legalization. I don't favor people bullshitting themselves that their recreational drug taking is medicinal when they haven't been prescribed it by an actual doctor.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Cool, I’ll go tell my niece whose seizures have finally gotten under control thanks to marijuana, who has the unfortunate luck to be stuck in a non-legal state and has to get it illegally, that she’s obvs just getting high and should stop and have her seizures again. Because it’s illegal. For some reason.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
They seem to have a very simplisitic, black and white way of looking at things where illegal automatically equals bad. What's legal is not always what's ethical/moral and vice versa and they don't seem to understand that.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm very sorry to hear about your niece, but there are good reasons why people who don't have any formal background in medicine should be really cautious in "prescribing" themselves cures based on their untrained observations and anecdotal evidence.
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Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-11-04 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
If you really think that the millions of people who have used marijuana medicinally are just fooling themselves and it would be better if a doctor prescribed them something....

You're putting way more faith in the health/mental health industry then you should.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. As someone who works in the medical field, it's just bizarre to me how overboard they're going with the whole doctor=good thing. There are a ton of shitty, unethical, corrupt doctors out there who don't give a damn about their patients or helping them, they just want to make as much money as they possibly can. In those instances the patients would probably be better off medicating themselves than trusting that doctor's awful judgment. Not to say that there aren't good doctors out there, there are, the one I work for currently is, but there are also a lot of awful ones.
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Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-11-04 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Right?
I have Crohn's - it was undiagnosed for years, and for years i was in pain. All i got when i managed to see a doctor was offers of pain meds and that it was probably just a 'woman thing'. WTF.

I almost died from that bullshite.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yes! A large portion of our patients are people who've been to multiple other doctors who were dismissive of their pain, who just told them it was all in their head and wasn't real, and just wanted to throw pain pills at them instead of actually trying to figure out what was wrong. Honestly, this person's coming off as pretty naive to me.
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Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-11-04 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
My sis in law got the same thing, but since she's overweight, it was always 'in your head/woman thing/loose some weight', until she was sick in the hospital with a toxic gall bladder and pancreatic cancer.

Infuriating.

And i agree - naive.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
There are tons of people who believe in homeopathic cures, too. I'm not saying that marijuana has no medical benefits, I'm saying that anecdotal evidence from people who don't have a medical background isn't infallible.
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Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-11-04 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's not 'infallible' but since doing any actual, scientific trials on the benefits of marijuana have been and still are, to my knowlege, basically been made mostly impossible to do by the US government, it's what we've got.

And frankly, if smoking weed means a person in chronic pain feels better, or someone with cancer can eat and keep down a meal, I don't really give a rat's ass if a doctor approved it or not.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the way the government schedules drugs means that no trials can be done on marijuana (and the whole stigmatization of marijuana in the first place was based on racism).
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Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-11-04 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Right? I get so pissed with the 'well, there's no proof' crap when the damn *government* is making it impossible to test anything at all!

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
So if a drug addict is able to con an unethical doctor into prescribing them an opioid so they can get high, that makes it medicinal just because it was prescribed by a doctor? Your argument makes no sense.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, but nice try.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
But why not? You seem to think that whether a drug is considered medicinal or recreational is whether or not it was prescribed by a doctor, and I'm just pointing out that that's a flawed argument.