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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-06 06:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #4688 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4688 ⌋

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Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like Molly Weasley
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Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-11-06 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't hate her. But she's definitely not a favorite, and there are a lot of things about her that bug me. Actually, there are a few things about Arthur that bug me too. Honestly, the Weasleys just didn't seem like this ideal to me that JKR wanted them to be.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
HP (like, as a fictional universe) has the problem that JK started from a lot of stock characters and simple formulae, and some of the traits of those stock characters didn't really mesh well with the later stories adding depth and complexity.
Indeed, some of the stock characters didn't mesh well with the original lot of tropes, if a reader thought about it too long - Harry Potter is an abused orphan who lived in a cupboard for years because Tragic Orphan with Cruel Family has Great Destiny, but Albus Dumbledore the Very Powerful Old Wizard is at once Caring Mentor who Knows All and also never did anything about the abuse because... whoops, we forgot to crosscheck our tropes.
Molly Weasley is a warm maternal figure because Harry needs a warm maternal figure to pop into the story occasionally and remind the reader what he's missing out on, but she's also a nag who doesn't listen to her children when they tell her stuff like "Harry was literally imprisoned in his room, they locked him in and put bars on the windows" because Nagging Mothers Are Funny. The Weasley's are poor because Goodhearted Poor Family With 20 Children is a staple of British literature, but... does the wizarding world not have birth control? How are they poor anyway? Can't they fix all their broken shit with magic? How *does* the magic economy work? So many questions!

Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
^This.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

JKR does tell us how flawed they are, but she's writing them from Harry's perspective.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's unpopular most places but popular here.

Personally I think that Molly and the Weasleys are good and people here focus too much on their flaws, but life's life.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. They're flawed people, yes, but who isn't?

Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I mean, yeah, it's possible they act super shitty when Harry isn't looking, but "OMG SHE THREATENED TO PUT BARS ON THEIR WINDOWS" as though that makes her the worst mom in the world, and no other parent in existence has ever made a threat they said in the heat of the moment and never actually carried through with.

I'm just tired of this "well, they aren't 100% polar opposite of the Dursleys, therefore they can't be seen as good people or good parents" attitude. Good people can and do fuck up and it doesn't make them suddenly not good or irredeemable.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinions

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
I never liked her either.