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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-06 06:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #4688 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
yeah but the correlation between shipping and being turned on is extremely high. shipping without being turned on is rare, and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
So I guess all of my asexual friends who are rabid shippers don't exist, good to know.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
that's exactly what I said

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
They love to ship. They write and read shippy things and most of them are actually pretty prolific fic writers, but they have zero interest in the sex part of the ships.

So no, for a lot of people, shipping is not about being turned on.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I said that the correlation between shipping and being turned on was high, and that people who ship without being turned on are rare.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
JFC, there is at least one person in this thread who is being incredibly obtuse and is really, really determined to cling to their flimsy argument while interpreting all disagreement as uncharitably as possible. Like, your point was clear? And fair?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I'm asexual and I get turned on by sex in fics. It's not the same thing as getting turned on by people.

Sorry, I dont believe you

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Being asexual means you lack a sexuality/sex drive meaning you are not turned on by anything. I am asexual and I wish people, who have a sexuality, or low sex drive, but just dont trust people enough to have sex with them, would stop saying this stuff. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I am frustrated right now. People just dont sound asexual to me if they're getting turned on and masturbating to sex.

Re: Sorry, I dont believe you

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - Well then you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be asexual. Some ace people don't have sex drives, but many do. It's a lack of sexual attraction to others that defines sexuality for many, many people.

People just dont sound asexual to me if they're getting turned on and masturbating to sex.

Regardless of how people sound to you, plenty of asexuals get turned on, masturbate, and find the idea of sex hot as long as it doesn't involve them.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
There are different ways to be asexual and both of ours are valid. I have never felt sexual arousal for another person and I don't want to have sex with them. I don't get aroused watching porn. Reading it is far enough removed from anything involving real people and myself that it's able to turn me on.

But I do find that people on the far end of not wanting to do with anything sexual whatsoever ace side feel threatened when other asexuals express, well, the capability for arousal, because they think it will make other people pressure them into sex because if other asexuals can do it so can you. Please learn that's not our responsibility, that it's everyone's own job to respect others' sexual boundaries.

Re: Sorry, I dont believe you

(Anonymous) 2019-11-12 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Asexuality is about lack of sexual attraction to another person. It's not about sex drive, about getting aroused, or masturbating, all of which most are perfectly capable of myself included (sex repulsed ace who sometimes reads erotica but prefers nonsexy times with deep intimacy and kissing and who does masturbate)

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
*fistbump*

Same anon. Huge same.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
What? Most asexuals do get turned on by stuff. The difference is they don't want to have sex.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
1. That's not what AYRT said

2. They said the correlation was very high. That allows for people like ace romantics who ship platonically, stop acting like it doesn't.

3. I'm ace and aro, but I ship like mad and want all the hot filthy smut I can get, thank you very much. Plenty of ace people feel this way. Just because we don't want sex (and/or romance) for ourselves, doesn't mean it's not hot af to think/read/write about our OTPs having it.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
ace romantics who ship platonically

Isn't everyone talking about romantic ships, though? I feel like friend ships are a totally different thing, but I could be wrong.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I was using "ship platonically" to mean "ship romantically without sex."

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
That's... not what 'platonic' means, though...

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, if you wanna split hairs here--

pla·ton·ic
/pləˈtänik/

adjective
(of love or friendship) intimate and affectionate but not sexual.



Plus, I mean, "ship" implies an element of either sex, romance, or both. If I meant both romantically and sexually platonic, I wouldn't have used the word "ship."

But you didn't find it clear, so I clarified. What's the problem?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
lol I feel there is a lot of projection with this comment.

I have lots of ships where I like it for the fluff. I'm not "turned on" by it or the characters involved... not everyone self-inserts into their ships.