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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-06 06:00 pm

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
since when has shipping been about what turns you on? smut sure, but you can ship characters in a totally g-rated sense without ever wanting to think about them having sex.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Not the OP, but for me and a lot of people, shipping is all about what turns me on, and I read ship fic specifically because the actors/characters are hot to me.

Even sweet domestic longfics in the fandoms I read have smut in them.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - I feel like you are reeeally reaching here. Sure, some people ship characters in a purely g-rated way, but not very many.

Personally I have more of an appetite for purely pre-slash type stuff than the majority of fandom seems to have, but the bottom line is, I still want them to bang eventually. The idea of it still turns me on. I may not need it to happen in every single fic, but if I didn't want it to happen, I wouldn't ship it.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like you are reeeally reaching here. Sure, some people ship characters in a purely g-rated way, but not very many.

I'm a straight woman. I have zero interest in reading about two women having sex because that doesn't turn me on at all, but I ship a bunch of f/f pairings because I like reading about two women being happy. I know a lot of other straight women who ship f/f for the same reason. They like female characters and enjoy female characters being in healthy and supportive relationships, they just aren't interested in the sexy aspect of those relationships. It's really not that uncommon at all.

If it were that rare, there wouldn't be so many G - PG-13 rated shippy fics.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
If it were that rare, there wouldn't be so many G - PG-13 rated shippy fics.

Um. No. Most of those G - PG-13 rated fics are written by people who also write M and E rated fics, they just didn't feel like that particular fic needed to go there. A smaller segment of those G - PG-13 rated fics are written by people who just aren't comfortable testing out their smut-writing skills (yet). Then there's the small chunk that are written by people who just aren't interested in their OTP getting it on.

It's really not that uncommon at all.

If you say so. I don't ship femslash, so maybe that's where you all hang out, 'cause hardly any of you are in the slash fandoms I'm in.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
How do you expect the femslash shippers to ship femslash in slash spaces?

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
yeah but the correlation between shipping and being turned on is extremely high. shipping without being turned on is rare, and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
So I guess all of my asexual friends who are rabid shippers don't exist, good to know.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
that's exactly what I said

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
They love to ship. They write and read shippy things and most of them are actually pretty prolific fic writers, but they have zero interest in the sex part of the ships.

So no, for a lot of people, shipping is not about being turned on.

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Sorry, I dont believe you

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
What? Most asexuals do get turned on by stuff. The difference is they don't want to have sex.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
1. That's not what AYRT said

2. They said the correlation was very high. That allows for people like ace romantics who ship platonically, stop acting like it doesn't.

3. I'm ace and aro, but I ship like mad and want all the hot filthy smut I can get, thank you very much. Plenty of ace people feel this way. Just because we don't want sex (and/or romance) for ourselves, doesn't mean it's not hot af to think/read/write about our OTPs having it.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
ace romantics who ship platonically

Isn't everyone talking about romantic ships, though? I feel like friend ships are a totally different thing, but I could be wrong.

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
lol I feel there is a lot of projection with this comment.

I have lots of ships where I like it for the fluff. I'm not "turned on" by it or the characters involved... not everyone self-inserts into their ships.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with you. For me it's all thinking the two characters in a relationship would be interesting. A ship has never "turned me on" but then I honestly don't know how to know if you're turned on as a woman so obviously I'm a total weirdo lol.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I have some ships where I want to read about them making like bunnies, but I also have other ships where I just want them to have an adorable family and grow old together and I have zero interest whatsoever in imagining or reading about them doing the deed.

This whole argument that ships are about what turns you on is completely bizarre to me. Like you, what matters to me is whether I think the two characters work well together. Sometimes that involves sex, sometimes it doesn't. Heck, I ship Steven and Connie from Steven Universe and I absolutely don't want to think about them having sex at all. I just want them to have a cute, innocent first love with slow dances at school dances and awkward kisses and working up the guts to hold hands and that kind of thing.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
DA

This whole argument that ships are about what turns you on is completely bizarre to me. Like you, what matters to me is whether I think the two characters work well together. Sometimes that involves sex, sometimes it doesn't.

Seconding all of this. I mean, yeah, sometimes my ships involve characters I also happen to crush on and all that, but that's not the main reason I ship those characters with somebody. It's just a nice side bonus :p.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeeeaaahhhh I have to say that this whole thread is making me feel really creeped out because I guess a lot of people self insert into pairings they like or something? I've written some smut for some of my favorite pairings and now I'm feeling pretty gross because I didn't intend for people to imagine themselves as one of the characters, it was supposed to be about those two particular characters and their relationship. Eww.

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
This whole argument that ships are about what turns you on is completely bizarre to me. Like you, what matters to me is whether I think the two characters work well together. Sometimes that involves sex, sometimes it doesn't.

NA - Oh, it's completely necessary that I like the dynamic between the characters. That's just a basic prerequisite. The difference is that if I like the dynamic between the characters in a "ship it" way, then I want them to fuck. 100% of the time, no exceptions.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
You're not a weirdo. But I'd say your experience isn't super common.

My sex drive is low. Like, LOW. Probably 1/10. And I gotta say, if you don't know how to tell when you're turned on (I mean physically turned on)...I think you've probably never been turned on? Or at least never more than slightly turned on. Because it's just kind of hard to miss.

That said, a lot of what we talk about when we talk about "being turned on" isn't necessarily physical arousal. A lot of it is mental sexual interest? Which is something I can see being kind of difficult to pinpoint, depending on how strong your libido is. For me, mental sexual interest is just...sexual stuff I like thinking about and feel drawn to think about and get mental/emotional pleasure from thinking about.

Someone with a stronger libido might feel a lot more strongly compelled to think about that stuff, and they'd also be a lot more likely to get physically aroused while doing so, which would make the whole thing pretty obvious for what it was. But if you have a low sex drive, it can, at times, all be a little murky.

And if you're completely, totally ace and never get turned on at all, mentally or physically, that's ok too.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, for me there's definitely times when I mentally feel like "I want to have sex/masturbate right now" but in a conversation with a friend once they said that that doesn't count, and if you're actually turned on "your genitals will tingle" and I've literally never had tingling genitals in my life lol...is that what you mean by physical arousal? Or is that something else and my friend is just crazy? lol This is all kind of confusing to me idk, I feel like an idiot.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2019-11-07 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think if your genitals are literally tingling you should probably see a doctor. Or more specifically, your friend should.

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
That said, a lot of what we talk about when we talk about "being turned on" isn't necessarily physical arousal. A lot of it is mental sexual interest? Which is something I can see being kind of difficult to pinpoint, depending on how strong your libido is. For me, mental sexual interest is just...sexual stuff I like thinking about and feel drawn to think about and get mental/emotional pleasure from thinking about.

DA. Yeah, I'd say this is pretty common. Like, it's satisfactory for the characters to wind up together, like watching a romcom ending where you feel the couple should end up together and they do feels satisfactory, but not really erotic.

Fic that's erotic and creates a physical reaction is different (and it's a small subset of REALLY good smutfic.)

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Your vagina gets wet.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of people would be a lot less mad and confused if it were understood that the definition of shipping is very wide and variant, and different brains ship in different ways for different reasons.