[ SECRET POST #4793 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4793⌋

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Comments

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

Okay this is a bit more than just a grumble - actually, I'm gonna put this in a reply to this comment, because I don't think this thread has fully collapsed yet and there's some real triggery shit I wanna rant about.
So, TW for domestic violence, murder, suicide, child abuse, and the terrible ways that society collectively diminishes the responsibility of men who do terrible things.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

SO! Just the other day, here in Australia, a guy loaded his estranged wife and their three small children into a car and set it on fire. He died, the kids died, and she was pulled from the fire but died in hospital. It's all very, very horrible.
What's also horrible is all the news outlets going 'loving father! look at these pictures from his facebook page of him smiling with the cute kids that he murdered rather than lose power over!' And all these chucklefuck commenters are going 'oh no but she was going to take his kids away it's all her fault' and I'm like... HE MURDERED THEM! MAYBE SHE WANTED TO GET HER KIDS AWAY FROM A GUY WHO WAS CAPABLE OF MURDERING THEM??? JUST MAYBE???
When men treat women and children as property, and they decide they'd rather destroy their property than let it leave, that's not sad for the men! That's sad for the people they murder! Why the motherfucking shit is this a conversation we KEEP HAVING TO HAVE???

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH.
Also the government are conservative wankhandles who keep cutting money from women's shelters and other social support networks, so there's that too.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

I never read the comments on stuff like this because of all the fucking idiots who think their mouth farts are too amazing not to share. This isn't hard...the dude was a psycho. Normal, well adjusted people don't react to losing their families by MURDERING THEM.

Re: Grumblings

[tabaqui]

OMFUCKING GOD
I despise that kind of grotesque bullshite. Fucking MEN.

Seriously, I am sick to death of fucking stupid men. Gah.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

"He was such a nice guy" is the most ridiculous thing to say after someone has definitively proved that they were in fact a terrible human being.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

Nice people can turn out to be terrible human beings. Nice =/= good. It's very bad faith to assume "He was nice" is some kind of defense of the person instead of an expression of shock at realizing their personality misled you about their true character.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

all the news outlets going 'loving father! look at these pictures from his facebook page of him smiling with the cute kids

Are these like...actual, legitimate news outlets? Our news outlets (US) get plenty of criticism, but I can't imagine any of them calling a guy who's murdered his entire family a loving father, at least not any of the reputable ones. Maybe some fringe blog or some idiots in comments somewhere, but not any of the big networks.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

SA

I mean, there might be an interview with a neighbor saying how shocked they are, because he SEEMED like a loving father, but I can't imagine anyone actually saying he was one.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

Loving parents can still abuse their children, particularly non-physical abuse. It still traumatizes the child.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this statement! I have been verbally and emotionally abused by both parents at different times in my life and they (and others) think it's excusable because they put clothes on my back and gave me a place to live.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

Okay but I think ayrt is just trying to make the point that no reputable news outlet would characterize this murderer as such due to how obviously bad of a take that is.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

person you're talking about

Yes. Like I mentioned above, someone might say people THOUGHT he was a loving father before he killed them, but I can't imagine anyone from any reputable news outlet saying he actually was one, while knowing that he murdered them.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly, it's just very enthusiastic use of the passive voice, and a touch of burying the lede. I got these ones off twitter -

Daily Mail Australia: How ex-footy star showered his kids with affection and love before he was torched to death with them inside a burning car
BBC News (UK): Outcry after family of ex-rugby player die in fire
CNN: Former rugby league player Rowan Baxter, wife and children dead after Brisbane car fire
Fox Sports Australia: Ex-NRL player Rowan Baxter dies alongside his three kids, estranged wife in Brisbane care fire tragedy
- Same source, from the article - four paragraphs in, we get: A witness reportedly heard a woman, believed to be his estranged wife, scream "he's poured petrol on me" after leaping out of the burning car.

Re: Grumblings

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, gosh! I just read about that today here online! (I'm in the USA.) It's so horrible, I feel so bad for the kids and their mother. :(