[ SECRET POST #4850 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4850 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

07. https://i.imgur.com/6qmsOmQ.png

[(Anonymous)]

I expected the movie to be far, far, FAR gayer than the fandom led me to believe.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm drunk I can't write. You get the point. There was nothing gay in the movie

[(Anonymous)]

Is it not? Boy, fandom lets me down again.

[(Anonymous)]

SPOILER:

I guess, if CPR counts as gay? It's a movie with cute boys in it, that's all there is to it

[bur]

It is a very gentle CPR with mood lighting, and their mecha does do a heart-shaped explosion. That's... pretty much it though. XD Still ship it.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually do this lmao, I write fanfic for things I've never even remotely seen or know anything about, just based on what the characters in the most popular ship look like/stereotypes and tropes I then infer from their looks. I'd say about 65% of the time I get comments raving about how perfect and in character it was, but I do miss the mark a lot too, haha. It's fun.

[(Anonymous)]

That's...kind of sad. Not for you, definitely good for you, but...yikes in general.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but like who gives a shit

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt idk it just seems like it says a lot about the state of content and fandom that making works based on purely stereotypical assumptions is about as effective as actually working from the characterization (or lack thereof, I guess)

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I just don't get what the intrinsic value is in canon characterization

[(Anonymous)]

...and I guess I can't possibly grasp what's NOT important about that, so we're at an impasse. Lovely chat.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that puts us at an impasse! I can understand how someone would prefer canon characterization. I'm not saying that canon characterization is bad. I just don't understand how it's intrinsically valuable.

[(Anonymous)]

Because...that's what I'm in the fandom for? That's why I'm reading fic? Because I like those specific characters and the way they are in canon and I want more of them, specifically, not a cookie cutter with their names slapped on.

[(Anonymous)]

Because you might as well be writing about somebody else entirely. In a completely different universe. Which would lead me to wonder what on earth you found appealing about the character in the first place. Might as well write original fiction "inspired" by the series.

[(Anonymous)]

Might be better characterization, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Why exactly? Seems devious at the very least... but then again fandom these days don't give a shit about canon and prefer to write/read everything through beige tinted glasses, aka basic and boring and unoriginal. Chances are it's these people who like your characterization.

[yuuago]

When I was backreading things, there seemed to be a lot of people who were making fanworks for it based on trailers, screencaps, and plot summaries, at least early on.

This used to be super common back when it wasn't easy to get your hands on certain anime canon, so I guess it's nothing new, really.

[(Anonymous)]

This is definitely a more recent development in fandom I have to say, how early are you talking about? Since from the 90's on, I've never seen people stick to inaccurate characterization like this, and I was really into anime as a kid.

[yuuago]

I'm thinking circa 2000 or so, especially in fandoms like Gundam Wing. There were a lot of people on FFNet who were writing it and reading it that had never actually watched it, or if they had, maybe only a few episodes.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Huh, I never saw that myself but then again I was never big on Gundam Wing. It was widely available where I when I was growing up, and the 2000's were huge on pirating so it wouldn't be too hard to find it. Oh course you're right that it wasn't perfect, but overall people seemed to actually care about how OOC their writing was.
Sorry if I'm sounding a little testy, I just get frustrated about these types of things. It does vary depending on the fandom for sure.

[yuuago]

Varies depending on fandom... and demographics. It sounds like you knew an older crowd than I did. Even if we had had access to the entire canon (which we didn't), our characterization wouldn't have been very good no matter how much effort we put into it. ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely. Like it's all interpretation for the most part, it happens a lot where I see a character way different than the common characterization, but so long as I get where they're coming from I actually like to see the different aspects of the character, it's only when there's like zero likeness I get annoyed;; It's probably what I liked most about old fandom was the different interpretations people tended to have about characters, now it's just one or none.
But honestly, I was just been lucky with the fandoms I was in. It's crazy drastically the fans will change even in fandoms that even seem like they'd be overlapping. It's a lottery;;

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I've seen and I understand drawing fanart as soon as trailers drop or writing fic mid-series, but writing fic even before seeing something? I don't know, it feels like setting yourself up for disappointment. I know how my imagination goes crazy sometimes, so I definitely wouldn't want to live through the bitter disappointment of my characters not even meeting each other lol

Other than that, maybe I'm not looking in the right places, but it feels like there's less hype for Promare now that it's been released outside Japan.

[(Anonymous)]

I think a real interesting example of this is how the characters are so drastically different between the Japanese and the Western fandom. The Japanese take some liberties here and there too of course, but not nearly to the degree that the English speaking fandom does.