[ SECRET POST #4879 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4879 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[final fantasy vii]


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[Clueless]


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[magical girl shows/puella magi madoka magica]


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11. https://i.imgur.com/YcKVO7v.png
[OP warned for sex, nudity]


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12. [SPOILERS for Melody: Love Has to Win]



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13. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]



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15. [WARNING for pedophilia, incest, rape, patricide, infanticide]

























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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #698.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[laceblade]

That’s kind of weird because I felt like the remake went out of its way to retcon some tortured emotions behind their horrific actions that weren’t there in the original — Reno waffling on dropping the plate and clearly feeling guilt about it afterward; Tseng rationalizing it; Rude purposely yanking the helicopter guns away at the last minute to avoid hitting Tifa.
I didn’t mind any of these changes! But if anything the game went out of its way to make the Turks redeemable.

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I loved the Remake, honestly. Instead of "Avalanche good, Shinra bad," it really went out of its way to humanize both sides of the equation and show why they acted the way they did. The whole series of exchanges with the Shinra middle manager on the train were so great for me - he disagreed with what Avalanche was doing, but when push came to shove, he wanted to help protect the people on the train no matter what side they were on, and having him tell Barret that he was going to help look after everyone was just so satisfying after the hostile exchanges you'd had earlier.

[(Anonymous)]

Wat.

The original always had nuance and was always “Avalanche morally gray, ShinRa darker shade of gray.” The Remake actually went out of its way to remove the nuance by blaming ShinRa for all the people that died in the bombing because they sabotaged Jessie’s bomb. Reeve even calls Barret and co out in the original for being pieces of shit, and Bartet himself admits his methods were wrong because of all the people he hurt and not carrying what he did for his cause. By evacuating Sector 7 + having ShinRa be the ones who caused Jessie’s explosion to kill everyone loses a ton of narrative weight and let’s Avalanche off the hooks because lol no biggies it was just Heidegger and The President behind that, Avalanche are still the good guys and everything would’ve been fine if ShinRa didn’t intervene!!

[(Anonymous)]

DA

^^^^This.

I do remember that the original translation wasn't considered very accurate and led to Square overhauling that part of production. Maybe the parts we're remembering weren't there in the first place?

[(Anonymous)]

They were definitely there. The “bad translation” argument only applies to the PS1 version. The game has been rereleased and cleaned up and fixed so many times by now that yes, the nuanced story telling always existed. And even in my foggiest memories of the PSX version Avalanche was still called out by Reeve, Barret did regret his actions, Reeve was ultimately complicit, the Turks were affable post-plate drop, and Rufus + co were morally gray but still trying to stop Sephiroth and if it wasn’t for him Avalanche would’ve failed given that Rufus + co killed 2 WEAPONS and are the reason Avalanche could even get into the northern crater.

People need to (re)play the original and look past the lego graphics and lack of voice acting and see how watered down the Remake is in comparison.