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⌈ Secret Post #4887 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree in certain cases. A lot of the fighting anime it doesn't really matter, but there are some where formality and honorifics are so very key that even official translations have them in.

For example, Rurouni Kenshin (which I do love but cannot reread now because of the author) and Fruits Basket. There's something lost in translation with at least Fruits Basket's English (albeit the new one, since I never watched the first series) dub of Tohru. It doesn't get that extreme politeness across.

That said, as someone who reads a lot of fan translations of novels/light novels, it is used as a HUGE crutch. To the point where some don't even try to translate certain phrases/do machine translation and you're just left confused.

A good translator could recognize when this is necessary and when it isn't. And a lot of fic writers don't necessarily get that. They just scatter it in, along with random phrases that do have good translations/woolyisms. So I can handle a little of it (especially in Fruits Basket fic), but am so glad it's gone down in the years since I've been in fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd argue even in the shounen fighting anime while it's not as necessary it would be nice if the translators at least tried to preserve some of how the characters refer to each other because it gives insight on their personalities. One of the things that always bugged me in Viz's Bleach translations, for example, is literally all the high school characters refer to each other by their first names whereas in the original there is a noted difference between things like Ichigo bluntly using everyone's last names without honorifics vs Ishida's constant politeness to everyone *but* Ichigo, or how only Ichigo actually calls Chad 'Chad' instead of using 'Sado' (also super annoying in the subs because you can clearly tell that's not what the characters are saying. This also bugs me in Inuyasha too, it's just distracting when the subs say 'Miroku!' even though Sango clearly isn't calling him by his name and never does).

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with this a bit, but so often characters that tend toward use of "-kun" are mocked/bashed (for example Orihime's breakdown when Ichigo got totally recked with Ulquiorra and probably though he and Ishida were gonna die) and it's used for a lot of sexist bashing (mostly female characters). So I have a jerk reaction to it, even though it's important in the sense of how Ichigo relates to characters (though I feel indifference to social standings/brashness/being impolite is easier to convey in English than the opposite) and how certain characters distance or get closer. So part of me is like "yes" and part of me is like "eeeeeh."

[(Anonymous)]

How does people making fun of Orihime repeating Ichigo's name over and over factor into whether people should use honorifics or drop them for the sake of localizing?

[(Anonymous)]

I was more referring to my knee-jerk reaction