[ SECRET POST #4908 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4908 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 59 secrets from Secret Submission Post #703.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Careful OP, you're posting this in a place infested with boomers and transphobes.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I don't disagree with OP, but secrets like this are basically just TERF bait.

[(Anonymous)]

I very much doubt that there are a whole lot of 65+ years old people here.

[(Anonymous)]

It's easier to think it's all boomers who think some of the trans party lines are ridiculous (if you say you're a woman, you're a woman; being a woman is liking twirly skirts and consuming lesbian media; some lesbians like dick), huh?

[(Anonymous)]

The middle line is a strawman line that no trans person says. There are trans women who are very butch and don't like skirts (and then get asked by people like you why they even bother being a women in the first place if they act just like a man -- but hey, it's the tooooootally trans people who reinforce traditional gender stereotypes, right? Definitely not you guys!), and there are trans women who are so straight they have no interest in lesbian media.

The other lines are real trans party lines because they're true.

[(Anonymous)]

There are trans women who are very butch and don't like skirts (and then get asked by people like you why they even bother being a women in the first place if they act just like a man

No, I think the trans women who claim they're butch are performing a stereotype they think is butch as much as much as the twirly skirt, 0w0 programmer socks trans women are performing what they believe traditional femininity is.

Trans women are trans women because they're male. They'll never be female.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

This doesn't make any sense to me.

I think that it is part of the nature of social identities like traditional femininity that they are performed and voluntarily taken on and socially created in all kinds of complex ways. It's equally true for biological women that some of them are women in a very traditionally feminine way, and some of them are butch, and that this is a result of their choices, their self-presentation, a process of becoming, etc without their identity being less authentic because of it.

And I can't really conceive how biological sex is inherent to the concept of being butch or being traditionally feminine to such an extent that biological sex alone is enough to make the same actions either authentically traditionally feminine, or a pantomime of traditional femininity. It seems like an article of faith rather than anything inherent.

[(Anonymous)]

Right? Because cis women neeeevvvveeerrr perform femininity at all.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT: People who think cis women never enjoy swishy skirts have clearly never been to a social dance gathering.

[(Anonymous)]

When my summer camp had a square-dancing night, there was a genuine scramble and barter system set up, by teenagers of all genders, for the limited number of swishy skirts that people had thought to pack, because dancing in a swishy skirt is the BEST.

[(Anonymous)]

SA: There's a pretty obvious double-standard when it comes to masculine vs. feminine euphoria going on here. Few will begrudge a dapper butch the feeling of wearing a well-cut suit (with pockets!) for the first time.

[(Anonymous)]

What makes someone female? Chromosomes? Do intersex women with XY chromosomes or male genitalia not count as female even though they physically look female? Is it the brain? Are you arguing there is a female brain? Is it the uterus? What about cis women who don't have those or are infertile? Is it being biologically physically weaker? Taking hormones is enough to lower that for trans women. Oh wait, you're a TERF, so womanhood is synonymous with victimhood and that's what makes someone female, it's how horrible and abusive their lives have been.

Also, google Buck Angel and then Hunter Schafer and say to my face that you see either of them as the gender they were assigned at birth. You'll be lying through your teeth.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never seen a so called terf say infertile women aren't female and you know it. You also know the people that claim there's a female brain aren't TERFs either. I do know that I've seen the female brain nonsense at dick central r/actualtransbians more than at the circle jerk known as r/gendercritical.

Also, google Buck Angel and then Hunter Schafer

Now we're back to what got JKR in trouble. Gender doesn't equal sex, those people are female and male. Being able to "pass" or being unclockable doesn't change that.

[(Anonymous)]

I said boomers AND transphobes (not boomer transphobes) for a reason, anon. Also, go fuck yourself, TERF.

[(Anonymous)]

Boy, the existence of nonbinary people must trigger you something fierce.