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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-20 12:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #4915 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4915 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 62 secrets from Secret Submission Post #704.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's just bring back Your Kink Is Not My Kink And That's Okay plus the notion of squick and don't be dicks to each other.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thìiiiiiiiiis so much. I really miss all those things.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Signing up to all of this.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. Some fandoms were too open minded and became weird pedo cesspools.

Lookin at you, Supernatural fandom.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity, can you think of another fandom that did so? Because I can't, not nearly on the same scale.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think things worked better when you had different themed archives in the late 90s. I remember in one fandom you had a specific fic archive for dark stories (although the darkest tended to be rape and torture which is fairly tame compared to some things). Having a separate fandom space seemed to help diffuse a lot of tension between different facets of fandom.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
OP

Yikes. I only ever treaded the shallow waters of Dean/OFC fics, so....eughhhh. I only heard about the craziness of the SPN fandom through here. :[

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT SPN had a kink meme and it kind of became a lightning rod for some pretty horrendous stuff like vore, extreme underage, and beastiality. It was horrible frankly. You got more normal stuff too but for some reason that fandom in particular attracted some people who ran to the unpleasantly dark.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with a kink meme on livejournal is it wasn't set up for tagging or warning. With tumblr and AO3 these days, warnings and tags exist. So YKINMK is easier and better to pull off. All those things you listed can be warned for and tagged.

I'm a firm believer in warnings and that there are some content that is extreme and people shouldn't have to stumble across it. But with tagging in place and warnings, I don't have a problem with people writing what they want to. I won't be reading it myself if it is those things you listed, but give I don't know the person who is writing it or why they are writing it (may be a trauma coping mechanism for abuse they themselves suffered for example), I'm not going to judge. As long as I'm not forced to view it, and as long as it doesn't bleed over into real life, I'm fine.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
A corner of Supernatural was bad, yes, but did that stuff really spill into the fandom itself at some point? Back when I was in the fandom the pedo shit was limited to the extreme kinkmeme (SPN blindfold, if memory serves). People knew not to go there and agreed that a lot of stuff from there went too far.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-20 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, to a point. The current "cancel culture" where practically anything can be suspect if someone finds it problematic* and all the witch hunts that take place because someone saw a fic or a pairing they didn't like, really needs to die. As long as it's tagged properly, there shouldn't be any problems. If you don't like it, move along. It really is that simple.



*I'm not talking about extremities like pedophilia or bestiality here.

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-21 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
If you need an asterisk and "except for" then no, no you don't agree.

Unless, perchance, you're talking about people in fandom who prey on real-life kids and animals. But I have a feeling you mean writing about it, because that's what nearly everyone who uses those words in fandom means. No dude. Writing about fictional kids and animals getting fucked is Not Your Kink And That's Okay!

Re: Based on Secret #4, FANDOM CULTURE

(Anonymous) 2020-06-21 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I would tweak that a little - Your Kink Is Not My Kink And That's Okay (But Tag Your Extreme Kinks Please).