[ SECRET POST #4917 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4917 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[11thmirror]

How many times does a character need to be described as non-white for them to count as canonically non-white, OP? Is it like a hard number, or does it depend on the number of times they appear in canon?

[(Anonymous)]

Fucking this

[feotakahari]

But “brown as a nut” isn’t necessarily non-white. I mean, John Watson is “brown as a nut.”

[(Anonymous)]

That's true, but (though I can't say for sure) I expect that contemporary British literature is much less inclined to describe white people who tan easily as 'brown as a nut' than they were in the 19th century. Who knows, though, maybe all Colfer meant was that Short got a lot of time on the fairy tanning beds.
...that reads snarkier than I meant it, but seriously, who knows what he meant exactly?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

We do know what he meant, though? He's given us fancastings that show us what he meant?

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe an actual ethnicity reference or point of comparison would be nice. Especially since the character isn’t human?

[(Anonymous)]

If it's true that the author of the books has been fan-casting white actors to play the role all along, and the character is depicted as white on the book covers, then it seems like a pretty major stretch to call it whitewashing when they cast a white actor.

[11thmirror]

Authors have next to no say in what cover art their books get. I've seen books where characters who were very explicitly described as non-white were white on the covers. Cover art means nothing. Now, if she's white in the comics that might be a valid point, if only because they count as a canon, if not necessarily the exact same canon as the books.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi I'm from the UK and the cover is shiny and pretty and doesn't have any characters on it.

[(Anonymous)]

Take two seconds to google Artemis Fowl book covers jfc

[(Anonymous)]

da - hey, uh, I just did and I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. link specific examples or shut up.

[(Anonymous)]

DA: This is the 2002 UK cover on my bookshelf. The original UK covers followed this sort of Book/computer/cube cover template. Not that the UK covers are the Ultimate To Be Respected but this the one that anon above was referring to.

https://imgur.com/a/leB2Vo2

[11thmirror]

Hi I'm from Australia and we have the same cover but I didn't want to get into the discussion about different editions and all that.
...though having said that, I just did a little googling, and I can't find any editions where Holly Short is a) on the cover and b) clearly white. There's a couple where she's there in the background, but none where she looks anything other than 'Ambiguously Fey'.