[ SECRET POST #4921 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4921 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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09. [WARNING for sexual harassment, anxiety]

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Comments

Re: What old media do you love?

[philstar22]

Lots of things, probably, in spite of their problems.

First two things that spring to mind are Tolkien and the original Clash of the Titans movie.

Re: What old media do you love?

[(Anonymous)]

I know people are constantly going on about Tolkien's lack of women and...idk some other racist stuff maybe but between the people who came after him never changing or improving on what they thought was a selling formula, and those who genuinely don't understand the man he was writing in the times he was, I feel like a lot of the criticism is, if not unwarranted, is at least disingenuous.

I am less apt to cut slack to an author who should have known better, at the time they were writing, and just didn't, than I would to someone who was legit exactly like every other author writing in the same time period. Hell, I even cut slack to L. Frank Baum who was writing in 1918 and thus had a lot of seriously uncomfortably sexist ideas...he was a product of his time and frankly his female characters have more agency than almost anything else written in the same time period, despite the "woman go in kitchen make food" level of sexism that sometimes comes across. It's a matter of balance, not viewing everything as if those writers were alive and well in the post-civil-rights era and should have fucking known better.

Re: What old media do you love?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it bugs me particularly that people expect Tolkien to be "woke" by 21st century standards. He was a 19th century man ffs. How will anyone alive today measure up by the standards of over a hundred years from now?

What's interesting is that the last thing he wrote, a month before he died (iirc) is a story set in Middle-earth from the pov of a character encountering the colonising Numenoreans for the first time.

As for lack of women, that applies mostly to TH and LoTR and there are good reasons for the lack in both of these.

Re: What old media do you love?

[philstar22]

I cut a lot of slack based on when things were written. I still think even for the time Tolkien has a certain level of sexism that was above and beyond what would be expected, and maybe racism too. He's still my favorite author, though.

Re: What old media do you love?

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, there's a secondary level of cultural sexism that comes from the religious background, though on the other hand there's also the whole writing-my-own-Norse-edda thing, and while some sagas had kickass ladies there is also a large amount of sausage in Asgard sooo....

it's complex and like other anon said, it definitely can't be held to 21st century wokeness. man sure can write, though.