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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-30 05:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #4925 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4925 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-30 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I sort of get the point that you're making. But I think it's really important to define exactly what the problem is with wearing those clothes - I don't know whether the secret is just with the phrasing of the secret. But I think it's really easy to frame the point in such a way that it sounds like wearing those kinds of clothes is bad in and of itself. And if I was someone who wore those clothes, and somebody made the point in that way, I think I absolutely would take offense to it. It's the responsibility of the person making the critique to draw the line why it applies to the fictional characters and not the real people making those choices.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-30 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with the secret is that it reeks of "it's your fault you're offended" combined with being willfully blind to the connection between a fashion choice of one person (fictional or not) and another person who makes the same or similar choice in real life. It's dishonest for using the wrong argument, and pushes all responsibility of any perceived insult on, well, the person perceiving.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Right. Because if you're offended, you're automatically right! Of course! It's totally not possible that some people get just a little fucking precious about anyone criticising a fictional character for their sartorial non-choices. Clearly.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-30 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
This

I think as far as characters who wear those clothes go, it isn't a problem itself regardless of the designers intent. I don't care if they did it for fanservice/ratings. Any character who dresses the way any real people dress is fine by themselves.

If all the female characters in a thing dress like that, I think that's when it becomes reasonable to criticize. Because that's not realistic. Some women really dress like that, and it's fine for media to show it. A lot of women don't dress like that, and media should reflect that too.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. If it fits a female character's personality to wear something like that, there's nothing wrong with it. It only becomes a problem when that becomes the default female outfit in a piece of media.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Some women really dress like that
I'm sorry, where have you seen a female lab tech working with her hair down and her breasts falling out of her top? Was it in porn? Because, jsyk, porn isn't real.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
Neither the secret nor I mentioned context, only clothing. I have no fucking idea what the show/movie in the image is. Chill.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-01 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, OP here *little wave*

The image is a stock photo. I think the label was 'sexy scientist' or something. No deeper story there, no complex characterisation - this is as shallow as it gets. Sorry to disappoint.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-30 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
came here to say this and you said it so 10000% agree. If the people hating on a character design hate it precisely because, in their words/opinion, those skimpy clothes mean she's a slut and a sloppy mess and all kinds of other unwarranted judgments of person's clothes = person's bad life choices, then yeah, of course people who dress like that irl are going to feel judged, because they are being judged indirectly and I don't blame them for feeling that way.