[ SECRET POST #4932 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4932 ⌋

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[fscom]

06. https://i.imgur.com/FHgbv0x.png

[(Anonymous)]

The Expendables came out in 2010, how... how "way before" anything can it be?

[(Anonymous)]

2010 was 70 years ago

[(Anonymous)]

Don't be overdramatic, anon. It's been 35 years at most.

[(Anonymous)]

It was 10 years ago which was several years before the idea of being woke was mainstream, but if they are talking about the original Predator (and not the bad 2018 The Predator), that was 33 years ago.

[(Anonymous)]

Early 20th century
Oxford Dictionaries record[6] early politically conscious usage in 1962 in the article "If You're Woke You Dig It" by William Melvin Kelley in The New York Times[7] and in the 1971 play Garvey Lives! by Barry Beckham ("I been sleeping all my life. And now that Mr. Garvey done woke me up, I'm gon' stay woke. And I'm gon help him wake up other black folk.").[8] Garvey had himself exhorted his early 20th century audiences, "Wake up Ethiopia! Wake up Africa!"[9]

Earlier, J. Saunders Redding recorded a comment from an African American United Mine Workers official in 1940 ("Let me tell you buddy. Waking up is a damn sight harder than going to sleep, but we'll stay woke up longer.")[10] Lead Belly[11] uses the phrase near the end of the recording of his 1938 song "Scottsboro Boys", while explaining about the namesake incident, saying "I advise everybody to be a little careful when they go along through there, stay woke, keep their eyes open".[12][13]

Contemporary
The first modern use of the term "woke" appears in the song "Master Teacher" from the album New Amerykah Part One (4th World War) (2008) by soul singer Erykah Badu. Throughout the song, Badu sings the phrase: "I stay woke." Although the phrase did not yet have any connection to justice issues, Badu's song is credited with the later connection to these issues.[1][2]

To "stay woke" in this sense expresses the intensified continuative and habitual grammatical aspect of African American Vernacular English, in essence to always be awake, or to be ever vigilant.[14] David Stovall said: "Erykah brought it alive in popular culture. She means not being placated, not being anesthetized."[15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, yeah? I know Predator was in 87, what's your point?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that anyone has ever denied that there were decent women characters before the so-called "woke" movement, just that there weren't many of them and were usually subordinated to the narratives of male characters and the gaze of male audiences.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. To use one of OP's examples, there was one woman in Predator, and she's not in most of the cast shots at all.

[(Anonymous)]

you know that when people talk about 'strong female characters' they mean, like, well-written and properly developed characters with inner lives and motivations separate to the men in the plot and shit like that? Not physically strong. Strong writing, not strong muscles.

[(Anonymous)]

This is true but in an ideal world we should have both

[(Anonymous)]

There are a fair fewer older shows and books where I feel like we get a greater range of better written female characters with a broader range of interests than you do in modern media. Maybe i'm just watching the wrong things.

[(Anonymous)]

I think most of this is unrelated to gender, and is just a failure of wide swaths of modern media to portray broad ranges of characters and types

So the representation of women has gotten better relative to background, but the background level of variety of character types has gone down, if that makes sense

[(Anonymous)]

Or maybe you're comparing "all the media in human history prior to 2010" to "everything since 2010" and finding that, wow, there's a lot more everything in the first category, who knew

[(Anonymous)]

Combination of watching the wrong thing and comparing curated and uncurated experiences, probably. The older shows and movies that are available tend to be either ones that have huge nostalgic value for older people, or are likely to be appealing to younger people. Most of the truly shitty stuff has been shoved in a corner somewhere because it's not worth the cost of circulating. Meanwhile modern media is whatever can get a backer now.

I guarantee you in 20 years people will have a much rosier idea of 2010s media, because they'll only be thinking of things that stood the test of time, not the absolute dreck that got made because something needs to fill the theatres between blockbusters.

[(Anonymous)]

We get it: you're not like other girls, you're a cool girl who prefers to be around the guys.

Pro tip: they are not remotely impressed by this.

[(Anonymous)]

Oops, definitely read this as male OP, possibly nurse... More interesting that way.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is stretching it a bit, there's nothing wrong with OP liking action movies with a lot of super masculine characters

[(Anonymous)]

all opinions that don't agree with me are expressed solely to win points with t3h menz

lol hoes mad

[(Anonymous)]

The phrase "note like other girls" used mockingly has lost all meaning and has veered from attempting to combat misogyny back being misogynistic itself with its frequent use of "you're all doing vaguely not-like-other-girls thing FOR MALE ATTENTION!"

OP never said she didn't like her female coworkers. Like OP, I have a preference for media with lots of male characters because all my actual, real life friends are female. I don't want male friends instead of them, I don't watch male-dominated media to make up for only having female friends. I choose to have female friends and watch fictional men because it's nice to see men in some way.

[tabaqui]

Because groups of guy-fans never have grand standing or infighting, no, it's all high fives and beer pong.

*rolls eyes*

[(Anonymous)]

Right?? That's why predominately male fandoms like Call of Duty are notoriously welcoming and friendly

[(Anonymous)]

You're catching a lot of flack for this secret and i'm not 100% sure why lol.

The first part - I don't think it's weird to feel drawn to the other gender when you're spending a lot of time in an environment with mostly one gender. There was a year I was living with two of my best mates both male. Great year but God I had moments where I just needed to talk to another woman. Similarly I worked in an all female environment and definitely sought out my male friends more. It's a balance thing I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

I think they're catching flak because the bit about strong women characters and the woke movement is just sorta weird

[(Anonymous)]

obligatory LastMan rec by Eurotrash Cartoon Anon
it's short (26 episodes x 12 minutes) and it's animation, not live actors, but the main character is a boxer and fits the Manly Muscular Man description, so are several supporting characters, and the female characters are well developped but all supporting, not main.