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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-07 04:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #4932 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4932 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The Expendables came out in 2010, how... how "way before" anything can it be?

(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
2010 was 70 years ago

(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't be overdramatic, anon. It's been 35 years at most.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Did we even have phones back then?

(Anonymous) 2020-07-08 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
It was 2010, and I was traversing the warm cobblestone streets of Paris in the late summer, in search of milk and an eyebrow threading salon...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-08 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure pigeons had just been invented.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It was 10 years ago which was several years before the idea of being woke was mainstream, but if they are talking about the original Predator (and not the bad 2018 The Predator), that was 33 years ago.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Early 20th century
Oxford Dictionaries record[6] early politically conscious usage in 1962 in the article "If You're Woke You Dig It" by William Melvin Kelley in The New York Times[7] and in the 1971 play Garvey Lives! by Barry Beckham ("I been sleeping all my life. And now that Mr. Garvey done woke me up, I'm gon' stay woke. And I'm gon help him wake up other black folk.").[8] Garvey had himself exhorted his early 20th century audiences, "Wake up Ethiopia! Wake up Africa!"[9]

Earlier, J. Saunders Redding recorded a comment from an African American United Mine Workers official in 1940 ("Let me tell you buddy. Waking up is a damn sight harder than going to sleep, but we'll stay woke up longer.")[10] Lead Belly[11] uses the phrase near the end of the recording of his 1938 song "Scottsboro Boys", while explaining about the namesake incident, saying "I advise everybody to be a little careful when they go along through there, stay woke, keep their eyes open".[12][13]

Contemporary
The first modern use of the term "woke" appears in the song "Master Teacher" from the album New Amerykah Part One (4th World War) (2008) by soul singer Erykah Badu. Throughout the song, Badu sings the phrase: "I stay woke." Although the phrase did not yet have any connection to justice issues, Badu's song is credited with the later connection to these issues.[1][2]

To "stay woke" in this sense expresses the intensified continuative and habitual grammatical aspect of African American Vernacular English, in essence to always be awake, or to be ever vigilant.[14] David Stovall said: "Erykah brought it alive in popular culture. She means not being placated, not being anesthetized."[15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

(Anonymous) 2020-07-08 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
several years before the idea of being woke was mainstream

"Its widespread use since 2014 is a result of the Black Lives Matter movement."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

(Anonymous) 2020-07-08 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
thank you ~

Black people have been using 'woke' this way for several years, only recently did white people start saying it.

But lol at everyone citing Wikipedia articles.. these comment threads are a cringe compilation unto themselves.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-13 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
DA but i'm black and that's exactly the point. being woke was a thing within our communities about staying vigiliant about racism. once it went mainstream within the last four or five years, the meaning has changed completely and now it has an almost negative connotation (pretty much synonymous with sjw now)

(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, yeah? I know Predator was in 87, what's your point?

(Anonymous) 2020-07-07 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Uh, because it's in the secret, referring to the movies the secret poster is talking about - Everything from the Expendables to Predator, anything with great fight scenes...

(Anonymous) 2020-07-08 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
The specific term "woke" wasn't popularized in the mainstream yet, but the push to have female and POC characters that weren't just stock caricatures has gone on for decades.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-08 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. So called "PC culture" started at least in the 80s. I remember the jokes. Just because things have picked up more speed recently doesn't mean the movement hasn't been around for decades.