[ SECRET POST #4937 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4937 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I just think it's hilarious that your idea of non-heteronormative genderfuckery is... a guy topping a girl.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

If you spend any time in actual femboy fandoms, a femboy topping a woman of any persuasion is non-heteronormative genderfuckery. A woman slapping on a strap-on and fucking a femboy silly with it just plays into like 99.99999% of the shit already out there. God forbid a femboy not want something up his asshole.

And a femboy fucking a masculine woman? That is absolutely being non-heteronormative. Heteronormativity isn't just about who fucking who or what parts are penetrating what other parts, it's about the people involved and how they present.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, that's not really non-heteronormative, that's just a trend in those fandoms/that subculture. A feminine guy/masculine girl pairing by itself might break het norms due to their gender presentations, but I don't think within that pairing the girl using a strap-on on the guy is more heteronormative than the guy fucking the girl.

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[(Anonymous)]

It's not that it's less or more heteronormative per se, I'm having a hard time putting the phenomenon into words. It's more that it's what is heavily expected in that fandom/subculture (and also expected/stereotyped of IRL femboys too). I'm not exactly sure what to call it, it's very much tied into the idea of the feminine person being the submissive one though. A good counter example would be how lots of people view butch women as the "top" in their relationships, especially if their partner is femme. It's the whole "feminine=bottom/sub"/"masc=top/dom". In the case of femboys and bifauxnen (or any woman at all really) their presentation very much dictates the stereotypical roles they're put into, not their actual gender. There's this idea that femboys are soft, subby bottoms and their partner needs to be the one "leading"/"topping", no matter who that partner may be. To see a femboy topping at all is pretty uncommon, and super rare to see them paired off with women, and rarer STILL for that woman to be masculine.

Re: OP Replies!

[(Anonymous)]

The butch example might not be the best choice, considering that Stone Butch lesbians are a thing in real life and I don't think calling real life lesbians heteronormative is a respectful thing to do.