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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-13 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #708 ]


⌈ Secret Post #708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 20 pages, 498 secrets from Secret Submission Post #102.
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104, 157

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
104. I will give you the creepiness. However, TTW has much better prose then Twilight.

157. You know I can't wait until we get the secrets that tell the people who are against the cast to just shut up and that it is not a big deal.< / sarcasm >

While looks wise it is not clear, i don't see how you can watch the show and assume he is white. The point is that we need to stop considering white the default.
Edited 2008-12-13 22:44 (UTC)

Re: 157

[identity profile] batty-gal.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
he point is that we need to stop considering white the default.

Exactly! This was the perfect opportunity to cast a diverse group of people and debunk that bullshit about non-whites not drawing a large theater crowd (since, obviously, the huge success of Dreamgirls with its all-black cast didn't work).

Re: 157

[identity profile] 3goodtimes.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I only like to see movies in which overweight white women with freckles and medium-length brown hair are the stars.

Is it so wrong to want to see myself reflected in the movies!? *sobsob*

Seriously. MNight logic is ridunkulous.

Re: 157

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2008-12-13 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
People need to check their own worldview. I mean, maybe I just have read a lot of the subject so it seems so clear to me, but the people who don't seem to get it, just drive me nuts.

Re: 157

(Anonymous) 2008-12-14 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. I knew nothing of the live action casting (I watched the series (and loved it <3) but am not in touch with the fandom or anything), and was pondering seeing the film, but if it's going to be all BTW EVERYONE IS WHITE, I don't think I'll bother. I find the idea kind of gross, actually. A big part of what I loved about the cartoon was the way it addressed sexism and racism and political issues in general, TBH. The idea of that being lost in the film is really, really sad.

Re: 157

[identity profile] tryxkittie.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
The point is that we need to stop considering white the default

The problem is, not only do people do this and see it as perfectly natural, but they will never admit it even to themselves. And if you call it racist, watch out, because they'll be up in arms. Why? Because they're definition of racism is so blatant and conspicuous that to them, no other subtler and culturally pervasive examples even exist.

Honestly people, people don't have to be wearing white robes and hanging nooses to be racist.

Re: 157

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because the problem is that white people (and I include myself in this) have this thing where to insinuate that they could and have said anything that is racist they get all defensive without ever actually thinking about whether it was true. In a lot of their heads, racists and racism is things that Klu Klux Klan and Aryan Nation do. The fact that they can't grasp this and realize that if you have offended someone, then you damn well think about why that might be offensive as opposed to automatically that they are being too sensitive or are just whiners, which I see what happens.

They don't understand what it is like to rarely see white people on TV. I mean I am a white girl, but I am privileged because I can go to a movie or turn on the TV and see some look at me. But they don't see that as privilege. They see it as just the way things are and to suggest to them to view it differently is to blatantly offend them because again they couldn't possibly be racist.

Honest reflection and sensitivity is a lost art it seems.

Also when they hear privilege they think in term of class and don't understand that no, white privilege is not just about that.

*waves*

[identity profile] aang-aint-white.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
*terrorist fist bump*

Re: 104, 157

[identity profile] klmnumbers.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I never assumed he was white, lol

I think if you view it objectively, ie his philosophy/religion and just the general theme of the series, it seems like he's supposed to be an alternative universe type of rural India or something to that effect.

idk, I'm not too heartbroken about the racial casting, I just hope they do the series justice. Although I agree with you 100% in regards to The point is that we need to stop considering white the default.

Re: 104, 157

[identity profile] kristenell.livejournal.com 2008-12-14 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think his culture just really really leans to him not being white.

I don't the movies would ever do the series justice, but with this cast I can only see it going three ways. 1) A bunch of white heroes fighting against Asian bad guys which is not a movie I want to see, b) a movie with a bunch of white people in a predominantly culturally Asian world which is also a movie I don't want to see or 3) the entire universe and world is whitewashed and that is not a movie I want to see. So yeah, they just lost my ticket, and if I ever see it, I will make sure that I do not pay for it.