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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-27 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #4983 ]


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[personal profile] catdetective 2020-08-27 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh big same. I have a couple ships that aren't fully codependent, but my favorites do tend to be...

(Anonymous) 2020-08-27 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. It's a terrible dynamic f real life relationships, but I makes for a great story.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
tbh... hell yes

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
This but make them siblings

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
*laughing in real life*

I have yet to ship siblingcest, but honestly, I'm a little surprised I never have, given my love of extremely codependent ships. I mean, it's basically like, "Siblingcest! For when normal codependency just isn't codependent enough!" Plus, all that built in angst, self-loathing, and repression? Fuck yeah, all of those things are my jaaaam in a ship, lol.

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what kind of fandoms are you into, op? I might have some recs for you.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Same!
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[personal profile] bur 2020-08-28 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah... if it was IRL I'd be super worried about them, and maybe talking to their family if one was a close enough friend, but in fiction? INJECT IT IN MY VEINS.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha omg yes. +1 to this
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-08-28 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
It depends for me. I can like a codependent ship if canon/fics makes clear that there are consequences to that codependency. Like, the fact that the Supernatural characters will choose each other over bigger goals nearly every time has clear consequences on the show, so when I was into the show I was down with shipping non-incest things.

What I don't like is when characters are codependent and choose each other over the greater good but things work out in end, no one else is angry about it, and there are no consequences because of the characters' choices.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
OP - I'm a total angst fiend, plus I generally like a little edge of realism in my fic. So yeah, I'd definitely prefer there be actual ramifications for the character's.

If there aren't any, then the codependency can feel kind of flimsy and meaningless anyway.

Also, I like fics that explore the codependency and show that it's not this fluffy, easy thing. The good and the bad are inextricably intertwined.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
This is my my shit too. Love it in my fiction.

IRL? Would run like my tampon string was on fire.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Same. I love that dynamic <3

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I love them, too, but I'm also not convinced that "codependent" is automatically a bad thing. I mean, a lot of what are considered "great romances" are also codependent as hell, and I feel like you constantly hear stories about couples who got together as teenagers and were married for like 60 years and were never apart and seemed super codependent, and have a bunch of kids and grandkids and everyone commends them for having this great relationship/marriage.

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this, actually. I think codependent relationships are quite likely to be unhealthy, but I don't think they're inherently toxic. I do think that even in a non-toxic codependent relationship there are bound to be problem areas. But you could say the same about almost any relationship.

I guess the thing about codependent relationships, though, is that even when they're not toxic, there's a vulnerability inherent in them because both parties are placing too many of their eggs in one basket, and that's never ideal.

So like, I wouldn't recommend codependency, even in its healthiest forms. But I also don't think every codependent relationship is the same. Abuse is not a foregone conclusion, nor is extreme dysfunction.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
this is such an unatractive picture, colours and a font that reminds me of crime shows.
Obessive ships don't have to be grimdark.

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Matter of opinion. I like it just fine. I think the picture does a good job of visually conveying the concept of intense codependency.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
same
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-08-28 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I do rather enjoy that, too, though in real life it gives me hives.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
literally all of my ships are codependent as all hell, so i feel ya on this, OP

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Hell yessss

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
OP, I love those kinds of relationships. My OTPs are all in that category. That picture is a very cool way of conveying the intensity of a codependent relationship.

Thank you for making my secret, secret maker!

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
<3

(Anonymous) 2020-08-28 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my favourite ships is FitzSimmons in Agents of Shield and they are TOTALLY co-dependant and will happily drop everything to save only each other. I love the depth of their emotions, even though it has been known to cause bigger issues in the long run