[ SECRET POST #4994 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4994 ⌋

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Comments

[ill_omened]

Imagine unironically in 2020 believing in racial separatist ideas like cultural appropriation, when the entire modern world you live in that allows you to make these nonsense critiques is a product of cross cultural fertilisation.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. Pretty fucking stupid isn't it?

[(Anonymous)]

Says the bootlicker who thought a black kid getting skittles was totes dangerous and deserved being shot.

[(Anonymous)]

You might not like him but to try for actual arguments instead of ad hominem attacks next time. This just makes you look like an idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, he's unforgivable and not worth more energy than pointing out how awful he is.

[ill_omened]

I don't think you understand what a bootlicker is?

And it's got to the point I'm getting a A Scanner Darkly vibes, that your mind is so shot it's physically impossible for you to learn, no matter how many times you try to clean that floor.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, you're a racist fuckwad bootlicker and I'm never going to forget you fanaticism over cops and racists in the past.

[(Anonymous)]

Imagine unironically in 2020 thinking "rampant intentional theft and destruction of native culture over several centuries" is "cross-cultural" anything.

[ill_omened]

Who's permanently deprived of anything when someone pulls their own spin on a legend?

[(Anonymous)]

Says the whitey mcwhitebread

The wendigo is from a still active and discriminated against people. Like, these people live largely on reservations where they're treated like absolute shit, and their missing persons cases are treated with less seriousness than a white kid's. But oh noes, a white person can't put their own spin on a religion symbol!

Ill Omened indeed.

[ill_omened]

I get that bolding a sentence is stunning and powerful (not to mention brave).

But aside from not answering the question, how do you think anything that you mentioned is impacted in the slightest by someone having their own take on the wendigo?

You think that suddenly if people don't use the myth those issues with the trail of tears or whatever is suddenly going to stop? Run me through the chain of thought here, without having to go off into vague posturing.

[(Anonymous)]

What part of "those things are still happening today" is so hard for your stupid racist shitbrain to understand? Or are you too busy sucking Zimmerman's dick?

[meadowphoenix]

do you or do you not believe that cultures can have disparate power relative to each other? do you or do you not believe that cultures can disappear? do you or do you not believe that cultures can be destroyed?

I get the feeling that you don't know what cultural appropriation, as a negative, is, and that's pretty typical, but I'd like to confirm.

[ill_omened]

Love, I wrote my dissertation on the intersection of nation and gender in post colonial African literature. I've a passing familiarity, I just don't agree.

Your issue aside from the fact that cultural appropriation is entrenched in ideas of ethnic ownership of culture, is your inability to understand that we cannot, and should not place cultures into stasis to gawk at. Aside from the whole issues with the past as a foreign country and that you're trying to artificially hold onto something that has never existed in the way you think it has, you're completely ignoring the fact that the market place of ideas has made human society what it is.

You could I suppose, argue a much smaller sub set of ideas tied into cultural appropriation about hegemonic cultures subsuming everything around them, and don't get me wrong, I'll take every chance I can to get some cheeky digs in at the yanks. But you'd have to argue both that cultures have an inherent right to exist, that there's no benefit to cross fertilisation of cultural ideas to the benefit of both societies, and that there's an intrinsic benefit to keeping them like the societal equivalent of animals in zoos, whilst not coming off a a redneck chanting 'they will not replace us'.

[(Anonymous)]

damn dude thats a lot of words. coulda just said "look sweetie i just think white people should get to own everything"

[ill_omened]

I suppose I should have added:

Cultural appropriation is one thing. Obviously any structured intentional cultural genocide through force is self evidently an unconscionable evil. Be in England intentionally attempting to erase the Irish language, the Residential Schools in Canada and Australia, and so forth.

That is a very different matter to open competition of ideas. Though I'm sure you'll make all sorts of arguments as to what actually encompasses violence and systematic oppression of a culture.

Also I'd tag on that a very important core to all this, is that culture is inherently tied into morality (and the most important elements of anyone entrenched in the culture will hold this to be true).

Given this, there are obviously some cultures which I believe should supersede others. Enlightenment era inspired secular humanism - pretty preferable to Aztecs take on Mesoamerican culture.

[(Anonymous)]

Racist fuckwad Nazi-fucker

I bet you won a confederate flag and whine about "but it's muh culture!!!!"

[meadowphoenix]

congratulations on your dissertation! your passing familiarity means nothing to me, that's why I asked the questions I asked.

i don't know what issues you're talking about, and I'm not sure why you've ascribed them to me, when I asked you some questions. I hope that's not how your committee told you to write that dissertation, but if that's how you answer questions, I'm sure your defense was wild!

anyway your air-punching makes me believe that you don't know what you're talking about, because very little I'm think about w/r/t cultural appropriation has to do with stasis.

[ill_omened]

No, you 'asked the questions' you did because you're intentionally being condescending with a particularly narrow minded view of the world. Which is very on brand I suppose.

The questions you asked are a smaller subset of issues arising from topics connected to cultural appropriation, and the fact you think those questions speak to direct knowledge of the term show the lens you can't but help view the world through and how unequipped you are to have the conversation.

That you either do not understand, or are wilfully not comprehending the relevance of the points raised as critiques of cultural appropriation means I'm wasting my time.

[meadowphoenix]

particularly narrow minded view of the world
this is at best ironic coming from the fact that you assumed things about my worldview as if they were foregone conclusions, but you must understand that right?

The questions you asked are a smaller subset of issues arising from topics connected to cultural appropriation, and the fact you think those questions speak to direct knowledge of the term show the lens you can't but help view the world through and how unequipped you are to have the conversation.
Please do not tell me you wrote your dissertation like this! This is insanely illogical as a conclusion from what I said. Let me clarify if that's truly the issue. The fact that you decided to respond to views never expressed is what makes me think you don't know what you're talking about. Not the fact that you didn't like the questions, but that you leapfrogged over the conclusions you think they expressed to something that required several other assumptions you could not in any way gather from the questions without assumption that your limited perspective must have assumed where the only ones possible. The fact that you decided I must think appropriation is negative alone! You absolutely know (or should know lmao) that that's a ridiculous and intellectually dishonest way of engaging with views you don't agree with and yet???? here we are? with this dumbass way of framing?

That you either do not understand, or are willfully not comprehending the relevance of the points raised as critiques of cultural appropriation means I'm wasting my time.
No honey, I'm not engaging with things I don't necessarily and haven't expressed as my understanding, especially with someone who can't or won't tell me what their grounding is. Your last four words? God you must love irony.

[ill_omened]

I leapfrogged because I have tremendously little interest in your poor version of socratic dialog, where you sit at the sidelines like a petty yute making baseless snipes.

You've not offered or engaged with anything, so I sped up the process and attacked the most common arguments in defence of cultural appropriation as a negative.

Given you've not actually laid out any of your beliefs or made any substantive critique I'll ascribe what I want to you until such a time as you decide to stop being a wasteman.

[meadowphoenix]

Well that was dumb and made you look dumb, especially since those aren't my arguments. Strawmen are fun tho yeah?

[(Anonymous)]

dont waste your time. it's clear this person is one of those dudes who thinks he is oh so intelligent for using Big Words or Proper Punctuation or what the fuck ever, and is in here strawmanning the fuck out of counterarguments because Look At My Big Brain Guys!!

[meadowphoenix]

i agree with you, but those people are very fun to interact with for me! and usually when I stop wanting to, I do.