fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #720 ]

⌈ Secret Post #720 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.

[Morning Musume]

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102.

[Anastasia]

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103.

[Johnathan Larson]

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104.

[Hana Yori Dango / Twilight]

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105.

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106.

[Johnny Yong Bosch, Vic whatever]

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107.

[X-Men Origins, Gambit]

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108.

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109.

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110.

[Life]

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111.

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112.

[AFK FOREVER]

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113.

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114.

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115.

[Linebarrels of Iron/Kurogane no Linebarrels]

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116.

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117.

[Hellsing]

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118.

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119.

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120.

[Gurren Lagann]

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121.

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122.

[Britannia High]

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123.

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124.

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125.

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126.

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127.

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128.

[The Christmas Toy]

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129.

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130.

[MST3K, Joel Hodgson]

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131.

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132.

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133.

[Persona 4]

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134.

[Naruto]

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135.

[Ansem Retort]

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136.

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137.

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138.

[Transformers G1]

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139.

[Persona 4]

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140.

[TWilight]

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141.

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142.

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143.

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144.

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145.

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146.

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147.

[Lost]

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148.

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149.

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150.

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151.

[Misha Collins]

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152.

[Ranma 1/2]

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153.

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154.

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155.

[Torchwood]

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156.

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157. [removed]

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158.

[The Divine Comedy / Devil May Cry]

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159.

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160.

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161.

[Supernatural]

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162.

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163.

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164.

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165.

[Supernatural]

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166.

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167.

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168.

[6Teen; Jude]

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169.

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170.

[Phantom of the Opera]

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171.

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172.

[Lipstick Jungle]

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Notes:

Early 'cause Christmas stuff to do!

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I think the secret was mostly addressing those people who do nothing but complain by jumping onto the bandwagon of "It's politically incorrect!" and saying the entire thing is about hot boys and nothing else. It's become one of those untouchable fandom things (there's been a secret about it every day for almost the entire week now), and the fact that people keep talking about how bad it is is irritating and demeaning to people who are in the fandom, whatever reasons they may have for being there.

There are members of the fandom who are perfectly aware of how subversive the concept is, and we're not trying to push it into anyones' faces. I doubt OP is whining that people hate it. I'm pretty sure they know why. I think they're just annoyed with the excuses people give to hate it without even trying to understand what the series is about.

And Hetalia itself does not even come close to touching anything to do with the holocaust, It's just that people do get up on their high horse because they think it does.

I realize you're not trying to be confrontational or anything, and in fact, your post is exceptionally polite. However, I'm not really sure you understood what I was trying to say, which is this: Hetalia fans are not entitled to not be bothered and heckled by outsiders. Oh, sure, you might claim that these people "don't understand" the "true meaning" of the comic, or whatever, but that's not the point. The point is that by virtue of the content and concept of Hetalia, Hetalia is going to encounter criticism. Particularly when world politics get mixed in fandom, an environment which cultivates fetishistic obsession and trivialization, it's easy to see why people might get nervous and offended, and Hetalia fans need to be respectful of that if they wish to be taken seriously.

Frankly, your comment that Hetalia doesn't come close to touching the Holocaust is utterly irrelevant. So what if the comic itself doesn't technically cover the systematic genocide of the Jews? It still comes close enough (the whole comic is largely WWII-era European political interactions, for god's sake) for some people that it can be upsetting. And even if the source material doesn't directly, the fandom still will. (Witness the kink meme, which I won't go into further.) Plus, it isn't like the Holocaust was the only atrocity anyway. Other horrific things are covered in Hetalia, and a lot of people aren't going to be comfortable with that. It's simple.

Your use of the phrases "high horse" and "bandwagon" seems to indicate that you have some sort of scorn for the people who are offended by Hetalia. You seem to think that people who are offended by Hetalia are out of some misguided desire to feel popular, or to feel superior to others. Well, some people might dislike Hetalia for those reasons, but here's a newsflash: I think most people dislike Hetalia because it deals with touchy subject matter in a lighthearted manner that some might find inappropriate. That is what makes people uncomfortable, and you shouldn't scorn them for that: they're not being unreasonable in the slightest.

I don't think the concept is subversive, I think it's trivializing. Not that that's always a bad thing, but when it comes to the quagmire of 20th century history, call it what it is.

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