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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-05 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #5022 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a similar feeling because my parents had an epic love. They were high school sweethearts who stayed together until my mom passed. That being said, I feel like it's silly when characters act with each subsequent relationship like it's heartstoppingly important, when clearly they can't all be as important. Parents tell their kids there are no favorites, but let's be real- having a favorite ANYTHING is inevitable.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
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Oops, I meant to say that my opinion on this has changed and I don't think it seems realistic anymore, BUT I feel like it's silly when yadda yadda yadda

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a similar feeling because my parents had an epic love. They were high school sweethearts who stayed together until my mom passed.

This was the case for my parents, too :). Only in my case, it was my dad who passed.

I think it depends on the person, too, and their individual views on the concepts of love and relationships and such. For some people, there is that one person above all else that is the true love of their life. For others, they may have a few particular relationships that are special, and thus may have more than one person who can be among the great "loves of their life".

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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-10-05 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't believe in the "one." Every romance is different, but that doesn't mean the next one can't be just as epic and amazing as the previous one. When someone's spouse dies and they marry someone else, there is no reason that second romance can't be just as great, fulfilling, and awesome as the first.

So no, people don't have just one "the one" they are fated to meet and they can't ever have another great romance with anyone else. I hate that trope.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-10-05 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh.
I think saying you only get 'one' true love or whatever is kinda limiting and actually really unrealistic.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
For the most part I agree.

I do think in some situations it's cool if the narrative plays it like X might be the love of Y's life, but then later you realize Z is actually the love of Y's life. But in that case, it's not that they're both the love of Y's life. It's that Y and X loved each other, but it just never quite fit, and then Z comes along and it's like, oh, this.

However, the longer a pairing takes to get together, the more annoying it's going to be if the writers decide to go a different way. If a pairing takes four/five/six seasons to get together, it's going to be really, really annoying if the characters break up and get with other people.

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone is insisting that everyone they date is the love of their life, then no.

I don't think that two epic, great loves of the kind people would describe as a "love of their life" are impossible, however. I mean, how do you know until you die that you didn't get two? (Or zero or three or whatever.) If you want to be picky and insist that you couldn't have loved two people exactly precisely equally and therefore only one of them counts as *the* love of their life, then fine, but that doesn't make the other one chopped liver.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
irl i don't believe in the concept of 'the one' at all, but i love it in fiction. i think because you really can craft two people to be perfect for one another so they literally are a 'perfect match' and idk, i like the fantasy of it when it's not real.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I like a feeling of depth and importance in the ship, but at the same time, I HATE the soulmate trope.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2020-10-05 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
In the context of a fictional couple who are depicted as Epic Soulmates Perfect One Twoo Wuv 4-Evah, yeah, I get it, it's reallllly annoying if a narrative does that, ditches one of them, then does the same thing with a new love interest. It feels cheap and overwrought. I love me some second-love stories, but they have to be presented in a less ridiculous fashion. Now, if the narrative makes it clear that the protag is perceiving the first love as the One True Love, only they were wrong and the second love is better for them, that's different. It comes down to how it's portrayed.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Are there any examples in fiction where they keep doing this repeatedly?

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Stares aggressively at OUaT.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends on how I’m looking at it. In real life, multiple deep loves are entirely possible. In fiction, otoh, each successive “great love” has a tendency to dilute the narrative power of said great loves.

For me, it’s not an issue of How Real People Love. It’s an issue of How Fiction Works.

Narratives generally fare better if they commit to their story lines. They also tend to fare better if they don’t try to push the same emotional buttons over and over again.

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree and to be honest it makes me feel like a fucking alien, because this idea - the person that I'm dating is THE ONE and this remains true no matter how many people I say it about - just seems so completely normal in our society and we treat it as almost a universal regular thing, despite the fact that from where I'm sitting it seems completely ridiculous

Honestly, it's one of those things that makes me feel really insecure and weird about any emotions I feel, like clearly I'm doing it wrong and differently than everyone else

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree. I understand that, in real life, people may have more than one amazing romance, but in fiction, I love the soulmate trope.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-06 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Soulmates/The One anything where the love is Deep and Epic and True against all odds in fiction? SIGN ME UP. I like quieter, softer romances too (a widower falling in love again and so on) but I fucking love first time, the one, true romance.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-06 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
OK Charlotte we get it.

I don't believe it's a thing IRL. There are no soul mates or that perfect person out there. But you can find someone to love and who loves you back. I do hate when someone goes from relationship to relationship claiming the new person is THE ONE.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-06 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
What if it's the case that it's just the character is a massive romantic? Like Ted Mosby or other characters who are so romance-obsessed they view every relationship as "the one" ?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-06 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for making my secret, anon!

I'm a bit tired to respond to everyone sorry. Thanks for sharing your own thoughts!

(Anonymous) 2020-10-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Same, ugh, I have a bad habit of being weirdly jealous on behalf of certain characters and have a longstanding hatred for 'replacement' characters.
It usually just feels so cheap when a character is given the love of their life only to lose them and get ten more 'loves of their life' that's are supposed to be just as impactful of the first. It's bad writing is what it is!!

(Anonymous) 2020-10-06 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
That's not a very realistic approach to life. Are you talking RL or fantasy? BC in real life, people change, life happens, the love of your life at 17 is not necessarily the love of your life at 30 or 40 or 50. In any event, if one partner dies, should the other grieve unending for the rest of their life, or let their heart heal and open to new love?

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-06 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
People fall in and out of love in real life and I'll be one of the first ones out there to encourage people to embrace any chance at romantic fulfillment so long as they're not being dishonest.

In fiction tho? OTP or burst. Don't even try mentioning splitting them cause I *will* start drawing weapons.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-07 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I would agree with this except that my favorite Epic Romance ship right now is an OT3 where none of them works without the others. Yeah it would be weird if they broke up and got together with new people.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-24 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think setting up expectations for One Epic Love That Lasts A Lifetime is damaging and creates an unhealthy attitude toward relationships in general; a relationship that ends isn't necessarily a failure, and prolonging a relationship that is no longer a positive part of both/all participants' lives is straight-up harmful. People really need to let go of the purity-culture bullshit until-death-do-us-part idea.