[ SECRET POST #5027 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5027 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I couldn't finish House of Leaves. I don't give a shit how authentic it is for the dishonest male narrator to turn every single female he comes across into a sexual object he conquests, it's gross and I don't wanna see that shit in what is meant to be a psychological horror. It's also impossible for me to not see the male author behind this shit and wonder about their attitudes regarding women. Same goes for GRRM and Stephen King.

[(Anonymous)]

I get what you're saying, but wasn't the entire point that Johnny was an absolute piece of shit? Like just the worst kind of person? I don't think it reflects on the author to write an unrepentantly shitty man, especially since the narrative didn't laud or excuse him for it.

[(Anonymous)]

The treatment extended to Navidson's wife made me raise an eyebrow though. Every single female character in HoL is either a cheating "whore", an object, or a rape victim and considering those are such common characteristics of female characters especially when they're written by men, I really can't not assume there's some bias coming from the male author himself. I didn't see the narrative reflect poorly on Johnny's constant objectification of women, it's just a thing that happens and that's that. He's not lauded or praised for it, but he's also not treated in a negative light for it either. He just goes off on tangents about fucking a woman who helped him with the Zampano thing and that's it.

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anon who replied below

Yes, exactly. I didn't mention it in my other reply to this thread since I haven't read it in long enough that I don't recall exactly what bothered me about the treatment of female characters, but that's the impression I had too. Like, if the "deconstruction" extends to every layer of the meta, it's... just kind of literally what it is, IMO? And this is coming from someone who liked the book overall, but had a hard time getting past that.

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely read that another way, I thought one of the themes was Johnny treating promiscuous sex as a substitute for feeling loved because of his family history. Mentions of his MDMA adventure dissolving into thoughts about how he saw his father as he was a boy and the general horror of the house connecting to his mother trying to murder him out of "mercy" and her mental disease. How do you mean that the treatment extended to Navidson's wife?

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da

I haven't read House of Leaves in awhile, but it still bothered me and didn't feel like there was a lot of point to it, idk. I got that it was meant to be commentary on that kind of person/character, I just wasn't feeling it (and I actually liked other stuff about Johnny's narration).