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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-14 05:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #5031 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5031 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[dragon age inquisition]


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[MDZS]


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[Judging Amy]


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[over the garden wall comics]


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What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Can be any kind of theme or subject matter!
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Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2020-10-14 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Psychological horror that doesn't turn out to be explicitly supernatural.
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Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

[personal profile] philstar22 2020-10-14 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Redemption arcs where the redemption was really earned and the character being redeemed stayed in character even when they changed.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
That's actually pretty common. It's just a lot more likely to occur in down-to-Earth dramas than in genre fiction, because it's a lot easier for a character to earn redemption for normal human bad behavior than for wiping out entire planets or spending centuries torturing and murdering people.
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Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

[personal profile] philstar22 2020-10-15 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
That's probably true, I guess. Maybe I just want it more often in genre fiction, then, since that's mostly what I'm into.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-14 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Non-fluffy romance. I like my characters to suffer on the path to falling in love.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck yes, this. Just generally, "earned" romance. Like, I get that whether or not a romance feels earned is going to be highly subjective. But hardly any canon romances feel earned to me, and it sucks because I'm a huge romantic at heart; I just have standards.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
da

So true. Maybe I'm spoiled by anime and JRPGs and non-Japanese stories with slow burns, but I'm tired of Person A and Person B practically being thrown together because the writers need to check off an item on their list, or one person being a monstrous asshole to the other and "winning" them anyway after little to no redemption (note: exception being when the point is for the person to be a monstrous asshole)

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-14 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Platonic love.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-14 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Humanity gets better.

I loved how Knives Out took the class and ethnic tension of Sleuth and took it further.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Humanity gets better... seems somewhat farfetched these days.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-14 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I always appreciate stumbling upon fiction works that heavily limit dialogue and direct interaction with multiple characters, instead focusing on a single character interacting with a mostly isolated setting. It's more of a stylistic preference than anything, adding mood/atmosphere, but I do wonder if there's a psychological component to it too on account that I am increasingly forced to talk far more than I am naturally comfortable with due to my job dealing with the public. I crave silence. I am developing something of a fetish for silence.


Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-14 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Abuse recovery that isn't about forgiving and reconciling with the abuser. Victims can and should be allowed to hate their abusers for the rest of their lives without being framed as 'bad' for doing so. Let kids of abuse shuck off their horrible parents and never speak to them again without shame or narrative scolding.

+1

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I literally cannot understand the concept where people need this to happen every time. I just can't.
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Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2020-10-15 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I'm inclined to blame the "forgive your abusers" bullshit on the religious idea that you are supposed to forgive everyone for everything.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

I agree, though I also find that more people do this when they're brought up on strong family values/where their family is their only security net. There tends to be an odd defensiveness towards the abuser in a way where they imagine they were the ones hated by their family with little concern over how unforgivable the act actually was. I've seen and have known a lot of people put family over rationality because they can't fathom or wouldn't be able to deal with this happening to their own.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The rationale does seem to be 1) forgiveness is mandatory for being a good person so you must forgive, 2) forgiveness means acting like nothing ever happened and continuing to maintain the relationship you had with this person before, and 3) if you expect anything to change then you haven't really forgiven them and really you are the bad person here.

In reality, forgiveness is consistent with cutting someone out of your life and never speaking to them again, it is consistent with allowing someone to face legal, financial, social, or other consequences and not taking on any responsibility to fix the situation for them, and it is consistent with expecting people to apologize, make amends, and do the work necessary to improve.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
People who think hate is healthy and empowering for abuuse victims don't know what hate is. What you're really saying you want is stories about cutting someone out of your life so you don't have to hate them because you don't have to think about them at all. Hate should never be portrayed as something that's good to stew in your whole life. Hating your abuser actively forever isn't overcoming abuse, it's just getting the abuse to take a different form.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Test of friendship and revenge psychological thriller, like...

Imagine person A and person B are friends. One day, person B gets involved with person C. Person A finds person C suspicious and digs up dirt on person C. Then, person A takes matters into their own hands and gets rid of person C. Now, person B must deal with the fallout from person A's actions.

Hope that makes sense but I'm curious about how far one would go to protect a friend from being in a toxic relationship.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Outsiders perspective. I remember reading a few really good fics over the years that have done this very well, and the concept is so interesting that I'd love to see more.


Also slowburn. I know it's really popular but it's my favourite thing. I suppose I'd want more exploration of a slower turn from non-romantic into actually being together, since I tend to be disappointed by a nice buildup only for the realization and getting together and becoming sexual usually takes only a chapter or two. (but that's mostly because I love the wonder of the relationship more than the actuality if that makes sense?) Also the characters realizing their feelings at different times but both being featured.

Re: What Themes Do You Wish Were More Often Explored In Fiction?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-15 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Friend with Benifits & Miscomunication... Basically this- since it's literally like the best thing I've read ever, and I want more of it:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/8792791/chapters/20157865