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⌈ Secret Post #5072 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[kallanda_lee]

I remember this being a thing in Xena, as well. It's shitty to say, but I don't think she's an easily "marketable" goddess.

[(Anonymous)]

It gets a biiit better in the second series

[(Anonymous)]

I don't recall her being presented that warmly in the original mythology, so business as usual, I guess. Did she ever even try blaming or getting even with her shitheel of a husband?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know anything about Percy Jackson, but I don't recall her ever blaming her slut husband in any of the myths.

[(Anonymous)]

I've read a fair few myths where Hera pretty much outright hates Zeus, but there aren't any where she punishes him for being a cheating piece of shit.
You wanna know why? Because that straight-up would not have occurred to the Greeks. That wasn't how they saw the world or relationships. Men fuck whoever they want, women get to live with it (or not, as the case may be). If you're a woman and your husband cheats on you, well, deal with it. If you're a man and your wife cheats on you, have you considered brutally murdering her?

Hera's a goddess, but between her and Zeus, one has all the power and it's not the goddess of marriage.

Watch blood of Zeus

[(Anonymous)]

For unapologetically petty getting even on her trifiling hoe of a husband.

Because the myths always do her dirty, but I have to say, did you think it was going to be any different? After the 75th time? When did his rakish ways even start???

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know anything about that series in particular, but I think one of the problems with Hera from a modern point of view is that she doesn't usually take her problems out on the person who cheated on her (Zeus), she takes it out on the women he slept with (and/or raped) and the children that resulted from that. So, while her anger is justified, she usually takes it out on the innocent rather than the perpetrator.

[(Anonymous)]

That's how it is in the Percy Jackson series. Hera really isn't portrayed as being wrong for being upset at the infidelity, she's portrayed as being wrong for taking it out on the kids, who are totally innocent.

[junee]

My feelings are that Hera doesn't deserve to be shit on for being angry that Zeus cheats on her all the time, but she sure as hell deserves to be shit on for what an absolute monster she is to Zeus' rape victims/extramarital children.

[(Anonymous)]

^This.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 all the comments here about how she always takes her anger out on the everyone else but Zeus.

That's what makes it hard to portray her well. Like if she fucked him over, fine, and I guess she feels she achieves that if he cares about the people she's hurting (ie hurt his out if wedlock children because it will hurt him)? But I just always get mad that
1. She's a hater, but she doesn't leave him, cheat on him, or anything, she just gets mad at him and makes others pay (a lesson that he never really learns)
2. Also, when did he start with his ways? Because if it was before their marriage....girl....

But I guess this all puns it back on her, instead of him. They should seek couples therapy to start.

[(Anonymous)]

...what is she supposed to do? You realize Zeus is the big daddy god in a patriarchal society and is considered the top in the pantheon/hierarchy right? Like no one rebels against Zeus. Otherwise you get kicked out of Olympus. And not only that Greeks weren’t gonna have her do anything about that because women are considered second class citizens.

Her only option *was* revenge by proxy. Applying modern moral standards to ancient myths is bonkers especially because Greek gods don’t even have morals on account of being Divine. That’s like trying to reason with Cthulhu.

[(Anonymous)]

'Doesn't present the godess of marriage in a warm light'. Wait, WHAT?
Where are YOU getting this impression of Her? Have you not read the myths that include her?

She's a woman scorned who takes out all her rage on the mortals Zeus has raped and the offspring he sires with them.

[(Anonymous)]

I've yet to read Percy Jackson but the myths make her look bad enough OP...

[(Anonymous)]

Not only was she cheated on, this was after Zeus fucking raped her to force her into marriage. she rejected him completely, so he turned into a sparrow to get into her room, and raped her. Then didn't even stay loyal.

[(Anonymous)]

A huge percentage of Greek mythology is "and then Zeus did something terrible again"

[meadowphoenix]

seriously, what text are you getting this from. at best this is a rewrite because hesiod is pretty clear they were together as soon as zeus got his siblings about of his father's gut.

[(Anonymous)]

I've always felt she deserves more depth. She is justified in her anger at Zeus's inability to be faithful and to not a bag of crap husband and father. But she also takes her rage out in the wrong ways often. It also is annoying her angle is often her putting other women and their children down when she is the Goddess of Motherhood.
I think it's canon the way she is perceived in the PJO series to see her as an angry adult who takes her damage out on the things that reminds her of her husband's infidelities. I haven't kept up with the series in a long time so I hope she will become more fleshed out, and learn a little about what she did to fuck up perfectly innocent lives.

[(Anonymous)]

#Heraunleashesherangerontheinnocentinsteadofthepersonwhoactuallycheatsonher

I'm pretty sure Heracles would like a word lol

[(Anonymous)]

I love all the people in this thread going on about how Hera's just so mean for going after Zeus's various, uh, targets, and that completely explains her bad reputation! Unlike Posidon (rapist), Athena (turned rape victim into monster), Apollo (ask Cassandra, for starters), Pan (rapist), Dionysus (rapist), Artemis (murder!), Hermes (tricksy little bastard)... Yeah... Somehow everyone can overlook those?

[(Anonymous)]

OK "tricksy little bastard" is not bad enough to belong on that list

[(Anonymous)]

Because the thread is about Hera and Zeus, not about other Gods? Point me towards anyone in this thread claiming that Hera is somehow the worst of all Greek Gods.

[(Anonymous)]

I adore Greek Mythology and I can't stand it when it's represented wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

It's good to remember that the myths changed a lot - A LOT - with the times. Hera is usually depicted at odds with Zeus'offspring, but in the Iliad, she's pretty damn close to a lot of them, hell she drives Athena's war chariot for her at two different points! That was big back then.

Plus, as also depicted in the Iliad none of the gods can stand up to Zeus' might, and he knows it. He spends a good many lines in that epic threatening the other gods, including Hera.

Cultural differences aside, Hera has always been a far more complex goddess than people give her credit for.