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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-01 05:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #5079 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5079 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-12-01 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who likes Angel Dust x Veggie AND Veggie x Charlie I kind of feel you anon. I would only argue that it was just a pilot and in future episodes we may, I hope, get a more explicit representation of Veggie and Charlie's relationship. (also agree with liking the idea of Dust being a top).

(Anonymous) 2020-12-01 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* I have a related shipping habit, one that developed from a personal relationship. Gay men 'going straight' for their female best friends is hot in the same way it's hot when straight guys go gay for their male best friends. There's an element of 'will they/won't they' that is exciting.

Outside of that kink, I just want a fuck load more bisexuals in media in general. More bi content spanning the spectrum with a wide variety of narrative and vision.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-01 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
What I really want is more bisexual characters who actually have relationships/are involved with members of the same sex, not just members of the opposite sex. Almost all of the canon bi characters I can think of ultimately end up in het relationships and it's kind of disappointing.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-01 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That would require more canon bisexuals regardless of whether or not they end up with opposite sex or same sex partners. There's so few to begin with in television and movies and most of them are female and written by men.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-01 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
DA. Where are all these m/f partnered bisexuals you keep talking about? I literally can only think of two: Cece from New Girl and Lily from How I Met Your Mother.

For f/f bis like, throw a dart at literally anything animated in the past few years. Korrasami. Princess Bubblegum/Marcelline. There was a bi f/f pair in Star! Vs The Monsters. Max from Life is Strange and so on.

Neither is bad. As a bisexual myself I'm just always confused where people even get this discourse when I can never think of many.

Here's a few:

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Callie Torres (Grey's Anatomy)
Carina DeLuca (Grey's Anatomy/Station 19)
Sara Lance (Arrow/Legends of Tomorrow)
Jackson Whittemore (Teen Wolf)
Alana Bloom (Hannibal)
Kalinda Sharma (The Good Wife)
Magnus Bane (Shadowhunters)
Various (Torchwood)

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I get the sense that Angel Dust was likely canonly bisexual back when he was originally supposed to be with Vaggie (he's almost the exact same character archetype), but I'm all for any combination of "going [blank] for [specific character]", it appeals to the romantic "love conquers all" in me I think lol.

And yep, I honestly feel like Angel would have been groundbreaking if he were canonly bisexual. Fem bi men get almost zero representation, and when there is the rare occasion they do it's always with them being the bottom for a more masculine guy in a gay relationship because there seems to be this unspoken (shitty, wrong) cultural idea that "everybody wants dick" eventually AND that fem men ultimately cannot not be satisfied with a female partner. :/

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
+1 about Fem Bi Men representation.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Link to the demo, please?

I don't ship either couple honestly, I just like HH and want to see more. MORE!!!

Now, if Angel Dust somehow met that owl guy from Helluva Boss....

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
It's just a literal 3 second animation test shot thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEW-HrocdIU

It's really interesting seeing their early designs though. You can see a bunch of information in the comments where folks are discussing how Vaggie and Angel were supposed to be a couple at first before Vivzie scrapped that idea for Vaggie x Charlie. If you want my casual conspiracy theory though I half-seriously think it was mainly because she wanted to make Angel Dust fully gay since she knows fandom eats that shit up (and wouldn't be as on board with Angel if he were dating a ~girl~, oh no the cooties) , and predictably everyone fell in love with uwu ghey spider boiiii lol.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I mean the entire point to Angel Dust is that yeah, he's femme gay boy but also it's a reclamation of all he's pretty much forced to do under his boss, Val, in Hell.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
What I heard is that the final versions of Charlie and Vaggie weren't written as a couple by Vivzie, but several of her team assumed that they were when they saw the final product, so she said sure. So it's not a "Dumbledore" because she didn't make the claim all by herself, but it's essentially unintentional subtext that was later declared canon. (And I will argue to my dying day that Dumbledore's subtext was not unintentional in the slightest, but that's another story.)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I almost never reply to secrets but OP you made me come out of lurk to say that "vahhjoiiwna" had me on the FLOOR

You made my freaking day

(Anonymous) 2020-12-02 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I immediately read it in the tone of Laganja Estranja from her Drag Race Stand Up challenge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXUJcJBWxcQ