[ SECRET POST #5088 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5088 ⌋

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[fscom]

08. https://i.ibb.co/Jk14n2M/lawjpg.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Who is this and what is going on? What is Hathaway? What has he done and why do you agree with him about whatever it is he's done?

[(Anonymous)]

This is a confusing secret.

[(Anonymous)]

Completely agree with the confusion. Is this Lawrence Fox? Is it a reference to his character of Hathaway in Inspector Lewis? And Fox's attempt to launch a UK political party?

[(Anonymous)]

Hm, that seems like it adds up.

It looks like his views are pretty standard All Lives Matter, what about reverse racism, political correctness gone mad stuff but maybe there's some nuance here that I'm missing.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's pretty much my US-based understanding of Fox's stance, an understanding that probably owes a bit to David Mitchell's Guardian column...https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/04/hands-up-who-takes-laurence-fox-seriously

[(Anonymous)]

He went on a rant on TV saying that "white male privilege" was racist, but that the media coverage of Megan Markle wasn't. He also got into a weird Twitter feud with other celebrities and called them pedophiles in retaliation for being called racist.

[tree_and_leaf]

It's Laurence Fox, actor in "Lewis", who has turned into a far-right populist idiot who wants to be a politician.

[(Anonymous)]

The only thing I know about Laurence Fox is that he was apparently horribly verbally abusive to Billie Piper when they were married, so I'm not really inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on anything tbh

[(Anonymous)]

*Sigh* I am not surprised, but I am disappointed. For a moment there I was really enjoying the idea of a beautiful and loving relationship between preposterously-posh Laurence Fox and comfortably-working-class-Essex Billie Piper.

[(Anonymous)]

She's not from Essex though?

[(Anonymous)]

Essex is more than a county. It's a state of mind.

[meadowphoenix]

well if you still want a working class/posh dynamics in that family Richard Ayoade and Lydia Fox are right there, although I can't imagine what family gatherings are like for Richard having to deal with Laurence.

[(Anonymous)]

Richard Ayoade is middle class though, not working class?

[(Anonymous)]

And given that she's still really good friends with Chris Evans (no, not that Chris Evans) and his current wife, I don't think anyone can try and throw any blame on her.

(I've not looked this up to see if it's true, but I was told BP got full custody of their kids which says a lot)

[(Anonymous)]

Hopefully we'll get "Robbie" instead?

[(Anonymous)]

There are very few people i'm willing to write off entirely, but Laurence Fox is one of them. That man is so utterly vile.

[(Anonymous)]

I had to Google this and... jesus christ. What an asshole. I was never that into Hathaway as a character or that invested in the idea of a series based off that character, but he sure doesn't deserve it.

[sparklywalls]

We've already done the "tormented educated dude" thing with Morse and also by extension Endeavour. Even before Fox hopped on the contrarian arsehole train, I didn't think we'd be getting a Hathaway series. There just isn't the nostalgia attached to him in the way there was for Lewis now having to fill the shoes of his mentor.

[(Anonymous)]

Which of his views do you agree with?

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with him that Meghan Markle wasn't a victim of racism. Her being a self-involved shallow Hollywood C-lister who wanted a title has nothing to do with her being black. If she'd been a british black girl it would have been a different reception.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I'll bite. What's wrong with wanting a title?

I'm an American who doesn't "get" the whole royal circus Britain has going on over there. A younger me (and probably a fair few Americans), if in the same position as MM might have thought, "Oh, a title. Cool." It just doesn't really have the same meaning, history, or context here for the majority of us. So, back when I was single, if royalty suddenly took romantic interest in me, potentially having a title wouldn't even be in the top 10 cool things about being in a relationship. Well, maybe somewhere in the top 8-12 range...

But again, I don't see what's wrong with that? Also, she's voluntarily given up the title and can STILL do nothing right according to a lot of the stuff I see.

I just don't understand the amount of vitriol for a woman who seems smart and nice (if a little boring). The marriage seems loving and they, from what I can see, are a nice family. There's just a LOT of energy being spent by press and others for a person/situation that isn't really a problem and has no impact on most of the whole royal "thing" that I can see. (But again, I'm in the US and I largely don't care.)

So, when I see that energy spent on people not doing much of anything wrong, but one person is black, racism makes a lot more sense.

[(Anonymous)]

SA. I decided to write a list of the top things I would be want from a relationship with a royal.

1. Potential for love
2. Romance
3. Hugs/kisses/sexy-times
4. Potential for more international travel
5. Learning more about British customs and traditions
6. Maybe some fancy parties where I can dress up?
7. My person being rich (royals are rich, right?) opens up a lot of doors for me to quit my job and work more on volunteer work and passion projects
8. Showing off to all those assholes in high school that, yes, I am awesome and desirable (not proud of this one, but there you go)
9. My person would have a cool accent.
10. Potential for a title

Welp. I guess it did make the top 10, but only barely...

[(Anonymous)]

Look, I think that whoever Harry married would have been bashed anyway (in the early days all of Kate's everything was in the tabloids, from what I recall as an American, and it wasn't until she was a mom they calmed down somewhat) however, the media gleefully set up the dynamic of "elegant Kate" and "trashy Meghan", with a lot of that having racist flavor. Would they have said negative things no matter what? Probably. But what they chose to say was motivated by her race, and that makes it racist. (For the record--I don't think neither Kate nor Meghan wanted the title, but they fell in love with princes. TBH, if Kate and William are genuinely angry with Meghan and Harry, I wonder how much of it is jealousy that they got out?)

And then you have Harry, who clearly has stayed in his royal duties this long out of family loyalty and not because he wants to be a prince. What happened to Diana effected both of her sons, deeply, and it manifested in different ways. Why is it surprising that when his extended family refused to protect Meghan, he wanted to protect his wife in a way his mother wasn't? He wouldn't leave on his own behalf, out of duty to his brother and extended family, but he would leave for his wife and child, and it's pretty obvious and commendable.

[meadowphoenix]

If she'd been a british black girl it would have been a different reception.

And it would have different if she's been a white US girl too. that's the racism. racism doesn't have to be the sole problem to be a big part of the problem, lmao. class, race, and nationality all factored in.