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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-18 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #5096 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5096 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[The Great British Bake Off, series 11]


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[Story of Yanxi Palace]


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(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
*shrugs* I like both, a lot. And I thought the way S1 of The Boys wrote the female characters and handled their story lines was surprisingly deft and sensitive, despite the deliberately violent, vulgar tone of the story.

I also think Joss Whedon was, and presumably still is, a real feminist, and that the properties he created were well ahead of their time in their depiction of female characters. Just because he did some shit that didn't live up to his ideals and beliefs does not mean he never legitimately held said ideals and beliefs, nor does it erase all the stuff he did in support of said ideals and beliefs. Doesn't mean anyone has to like him. I'm just not here for the black-and-white, all-or-nothing, revisionist history bullshit that surrounds him.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Here for this more nuanced take. Thanks.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-20 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"more nuanced" = let the guy off already, who cares about the wimmin amirite?
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-12-19 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
well I think when you're wife talks about how you specifically like lording power over women and how that impacted your relationship and you fire an actress for getting pregnant, "real feminist" is not indeed a descriptor I would give you. is that revisionist or an understanding of his mindset that we didn't previously have?

also, a lot of the problems with Buffy's writing were overall issues, like Buffy's power being inconsistent only when needing to give Xander some use, or in general how Whedon believes women operate in patriarchal systems seen throughout many of his shows. I find the "feminist" stuff more one-offs than the other, but those issues were so rarely seen that he gets a lot of credit for them.

(Anonymous) 2020-12-20 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
"I also think Joss Whedon was, and presumably still is, a real feminist"

You're wrong. Holding ideals and not living up to them is tokenism at best, rank hypocrisy more like in his case. Plus, the writing isn't all that feminist in fact.