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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-12-18 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #5096 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5096 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[The Great British Bake Off, series 11]


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[Story of Yanxi Palace]


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This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
You know that saying that goes something like "There are two kinds of people: those who say 'I suffered, so I don't want anyone else to suffer' and those who say 'I suffered, so you should too.'"? COVID has shown me that I'm the latter type of person. I don't like that there are countries that are free of COVID while mine and most of my other online friends' is still suffering from deaths, overcrowded hospitals and overworked healthcare workers. I want the COVID-free countries to take in some of our sick and dying, not just sit there smiling while we suffer. If we infect someone there, so be it. They don't deserve to keep themselves pristine when we can't do that.

If I had the power to make this happen, I wouldn't, because I know it's wrong. But I still wish in my heart for it.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
To be totally honest, grief is complex and ugly. When my mom died young, I used to feel like "Why the fuck do you get to live when my mom didn't?" any time I saw people her age and older in public. It sounds bad and it's not charitable, but grief makes you feel angry and lost. I don't feel the way you feel but I understand you feeling it. This pandemic has killed so many people, hurt so many people, financially ruined people, and changed our lives in, honestly, shitty ways, so being upset about it just makes sense, getting angry about it makes sense.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
We did the work to keep ourselves safe. And a lot of that work involved shutting down international flights longterm and imposing strict quarantine procedures, which your governments couldn't even dream of doing. These policies had major consequences for the livelihood of our people, but we did it anyway.

If anything, we should be angry at the rest of the world for their failure to contain the virus, because the world as a whole remains unsafe and our efforts are diminished as a result.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much my belief. And I live in a country where there are enough stupid assholes and crappy leadership to negate any measures actual responsible people DO take.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
This.

My mother works a public service job and had to go to her office at city hall for the first time in months today. While she was there, a group of anti-mask protestors surrounded the building with the goal of performing a citizen's arrest on the mayor. It was one of the stupidest things I'd ever heard but it also potentially endangered my mother, who couldn't leave her workplace safely. Don't be angry at the countries who behaved responsibly during this crisis; be angry at the ignorant people making it harder, and the policymakers that cater to them.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Holy crap.

This is the year I finally had to admit I don’t understand America. I just don’t. I grew up there, was educated there, I considered myself culturally American for years. And I’ve read tons of literature on class divides, racial tension, what have you. I have a degree in Economics ffs. But I just can’t rationalize any of this shit.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's the thing! I didn't want to directly say this in my comment, because I didn't want to bring anti-American sentiment into it, but I do not live in the USA and neither does my mother.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
All the best to your family. I wish I could say I don’t know why my mind immediately went there, but honestly, we know why.

My younger sister lives in the States and got laid off this fall. And due to aforementioned strict policies of my own country, my parents can’t even get her on a flight home. So yeah, even in the “safe” countries, we too are pinning all our hopes on the vaccines. Until the world is safe, nowhere is safe.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
This.

It's one thing to be vindictive, but not like this. If they want to blame the world then they should be blaming the people who made the sacrifices to save their people, but the ones who inflated the problem and caused more harm for them and everyone else.

Nowhere is safe nor free from the virus, and being angry at the people who took precautions is beyond petty and not even in the realm of 'there are two types of people'. Just that of I am am especially shitty type of person, really.

SA

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
*shouldn't be blaming.

Sorry.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, feelings are feelings, even if others don't agree with those feelings. OP already said they KNOW taking that stance is wrong, and that they wouldn't give into those feelings even if they had the power to.

Yes, I know everything OP said is awful and I completely disagree with it. But I don't think feeling resentment makes someone a shitty person, even if that resentment is aimed at the wrong people.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
I want to be compassionate, but at what point do we stop with the “all feelings are valid” train and switch to “maybe you should try to modulate some of these feelings”? Isn’t letting emotions running unchecked a big part of this mess?

If in your heart of heart you’re wishing death and disease on whole-ass nations because they have the audacity to “remain pristine” (fuck does that have even mean?), I think that point has been reached.

Re: This is a confession (non-fandom)

(Anonymous) 2020-12-19 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

You have a good point- and I do apologize as today is not the best of days for me and my emotions are running wild. But at the same time I do feel the need to ask, that while everyone is essentially condemned by their emotions, to what exactly is the extent of forgiveness in that?

OP stated that they knew that wishing other more well maintained countries should take in the sick of others was unrealistic and wrong. They never said anything about the mindset that being resentful of those countries based simply by the fact they were more responsible about this plague than their own was wrong also.
Albeit it may just be their phrasing, but by comparing their view to the phrase of 'there are two types of people' it implies that both opinions are in some way right or understandable. And while OP definitely falls into the more pessimistic side of the equation, between blaming the world for such a pandemic and focusing their anger to the point of expecting other countries/people to fix the mistakes made by others completely out of their jurisdiction even at risk of themselves, OP falls on the very far side of that opinion.

At what point does someone's thoughts, actions, and opinions define them as a person. There's a certain point of ignorance and fury that, I think, goes into the mindset of specifically resenting the people who have done all they could to protect themselves simply because they believe they succeeded. Being angry at the world is an emotion, but picking and choosing who they vindicate is a decision.