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⌈ Secret Post #5161 ⌋

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[meadowphoenix]

Dollhouse is great if you see it as the anti-capitalist/fascist/slavery narrative it's supposed to be, but my god getting to that point? Rapey. Episode after episode of Sucker Punch. Like "I don't think I should have to watch 40 versions of sucker punch just to see these people topple an secret techno-state" is a perfectly reasonable response. I can't recommend it unless you can tolerate that sort of thing. But if you can...then I recommend it.

Anyway, I completely agree Whedon has a type but I don't agree it's the type wako thinks it is or that Whedon's type has lead to this other sci-fi/superhero/fantasy types.

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but my god getting to that point? Rapey. Episode after episode of Sucker Punch. Like "I don't think I should have to watch 40 versions of sucker punch just to see these people topple an secret techno-state" is a perfectly reasonable response.

I think that this is exactly the part of Dollhouse that maybe needs to be considered in light of our broader reassessment of Joss Whedon

Anyway, I completely agree Whedon has a type but I don't agree it's the type wako thinks it is or that Whedon's type has lead to this other sci-fi/superhero/fantasy types.

I think "type" is the wrong way to phrase it. There's a lot of different permutations and types of characters Whedon likes. But I think that there is a throughline: "damaged or traumatized + badass + physically slight = hot". Those elements pop up in different forms, but they pop up a lot, and that's what I mean when I mention River and Faith, they're part of that lineage

I agree that Whedon doesn't really have responsibility for the broader trend

[meadowphoenix]

I both understand what you're saying, and genuinely don't think the themes would read the same without that part (i.e. that part of the reason people don't recognize the technostate is trouble is that what it's perpetuating, misogyny and other power fantasies, is already reasonable and also it "gets rid" of criminals and that the male investment in destroying it is less ethical than horny), so *shrug* i don't know what to do about dollhouse. it should probably have just been a short series.