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⌈ Secret Post #5169 ⌋

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Comments

[philstar22]

I have a friend whose into this show. She's justified the cheating in her mind by demonizing the first husband. She was into the books before the show, and she insists the husband was worse in the books and the show whitewashed him. I haven't read the books myself, although I understand it starts with the same scene the show starts with, the oral sex scene focused entirely on her. Which to me makes the husband pretty cool.

The cheating is why I couldn't get into the show. It was one thing when she was in the past not by choice and had to protect herself. But she got home and then chose to go back. I just can't at that point. Cheating is a hard no button for me. It is too bad because I like that the show has some nice male eye candy. I'd love to watch it. I just can't get past the cheating angle.

[(Anonymous)]

It's been a while since I read the books, but I smell BS. Frank's biggest problem in the books iirc is not being Jamie and having a real psycho ancestor who looked just like him. He said Claire had drifted apart a little bit at the beginning (because of the war and being apart, it wasn't anyone's fault), but were reconnecting before she accidentally went back in time.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I only watched the first season (maybe part of two), and tbh, the only reason she ends up going back in time is because she's out there trying to reconnect with her husband. She was out in the field, and you could tell they drifted apart but were trying to make a go at it.

By the time she almost gets raped by his ancestor, i think the damage had been done. Jamie had slowly been... inadvertently charming her, and she definitely tried to resist it at first.She def gave vibes that she loved her husband, but that it was a love slowly fading, withering away.

I'm not here for the cheating, and I was into her and Jamie, so while i felt bad for the husband, I wasn't torn up about it. But I didn't realize she had made a choice to go back. I mean at that point just divorce your husband (if it was allowed) and call it a day. No need for the disrespect.

[(Anonymous)]

By the time she almost gets raped by his ancestor, i think the damage had been done. Jamie had slowly been... inadvertently charming her, and she definitely tried to resist it at first.She def gave vibes that she loved her husband, but that it was a love slowly fading, withering away.

DA - This is why it didn't bother me, personally. I just feel like the groundwork was very much there to explain the tenuous state her and Frank's marriage was in at the start of the story. Like, they honestly weren't even sure they were going to be able to reconnect, they'd been apart so long. So to have the fragile tendrils of their reconnection shredded to absolute smitherines by crazy and traumatic time travel (and a dude wearing Frank's face who is a sadistic psychopath?). *shrugs* I completely understand why Claire felt like there wasn't much left to hang onto from her marriage. And I don't say that as a shipper. I was honestly very neutral on the Jamie/Claire relationship throughout the seasons of Outlander I watched.

But I didn't realize she had made a choice to go back. I mean at that point just divorce your husband (if it was allowed) and call it a day.

I mean (SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS) Frank was dead when Claire decided to go back for the second time. Plus they'd been separated before that, which iirc was Frank's decision because he'd gotten serious about someone else.

And IDK about in the books, but from what I recall, in the show she only stays with him because he all but begs her to, can't have biological children of his own and wants to be the father to her child, and she's pregnant and it's the forties which makes being a single mother a pretty horrifying prospect.

IMO the TV series felt quite fair to Frank. I never felt like the was the bad guy (except one moment where he very nearly strikes Claire when he finds out she's pregnant with another man's child, but he stops himself and never does it again that we see, so like...eehhh?). However, it does sound like the book is a lot more intent on outright character assassination for Frank because only Jamie is allowed to possess winsome qualities. *eyeroll*

[(Anonymous)]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Frank is the only character I really liked when I still watched it, and he deserved so much better. Absolutely no contest as to who I would have chosen to be with.