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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-07 05:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #5175 ]


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philstar22: (Thinky Thoughts Natasha)

Based on #6

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-03-07 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What are some opinions that you had because of media that you later found out were incorrect?

Or the reverse, what were some things you learned about because of media that you wouldn't have known otherwise?
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Re: Based on #6

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-03-07 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I was kind of similar, though it wasn't just based on law and order. My parents watched a bunch of lawyer shows when I was a kid. I wasn't allowed to watch most of them, so I only caught glimpses. But between the little bits I saw, and the things I got taught in a Christian school, I had very clear ideas about what justice was and that justice meant fighting evil. I don't know if I thought defense lawyers were bad, but prosecutors were definitely the best lawyers, the ones fighting the good fight, the kind I wanted to be.

In college I actually started opening my eyes more to what real prosecutors offices were like, but I still had this impression that federal prosecutors were the good ones, and defense work still seemed a little iffy. THen law school really showed me what the law practice was like and what real justice was. I'm a completely different person than I was way back then. Same root desire to help people, but a better understanding of how to do that and a better understanding of the world.

On the other hand, it was media that opened my eyes to a lot of things growing up and started me in the right direction. Given my conservative upbringing, I was really sheltered. My parents were different than a lot of other parents of kids at my school in that they taught me to think for myself. I'm not sure they're entirely happy with the outcome of that. But anyway, the internet exposed me to sexuality in general, to LGBT things, to other perspectives than the limited one I was getting. Here I was living in another country, and yet it was the internet giving me far more exposure to the world than the real world I was getting.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-07 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I read slash and hung out with slashers and fellow gay fam at school. Homophobia still surprises me 20 years later.
philstar22: (Willow bookworm)

Re: Based on #6

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-03-07 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That's awesome. I wish I'd known people like you. I read slash and femslash, but as far as I know I was alone at my school in my gradual realization that homophobia was stupid and wrong.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-07 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw man. I wish you had too. I was the nerdiest one of our group by far, would have loved a fellow queer person to nerd out about Tolkein with. **solidarity fistbump**
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Re: Based on #6

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-03-08 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
When I was a lot younger I saw way too many books, TV shows, etc. that spouted that "there's somebody for everybody" nonsense and I believed it.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
You don't believe this? Why?
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Re: Based on #6

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-03-08 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
because there are literally thousands of people who go through life in the wrong relationships or no relationship at all.
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Re: Based on #6

[personal profile] rudehannibal 2021-03-08 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I mean there are billions of people on the planet, so the idea that the one and only person meant for you just happens to be one who lives near and has some contact with you in some way to be kind of... ridiculous? That's one of the reason I enjoy Internet relationships, because they can help bridge that gap a bit, but the idea that 'there's someone romantic for everyone' has become very jaded to me, especially after my divorce.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. Add in the fact that many of these stories ended with people getting married and having babies and I never realized that people didn’t have to do any of these things if they didn’t want to until I was way older.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I used to think that abortion was, by nature, really traumatic and awful. I didn't think it was wrong, I absolutely believed in a woman's right to have one; I just thought it was a horrible thing to have to do. Mainly because that's how the media always portrayed it.

I was mid twenties before I realized that there was nothing inherently traumatic about it. It's not inherently a big deal. I'm not saying that if someone experiences it as traumatic their feelings are wrong. However someone experiences it is valid. I'm just saying there is no innate meaning or weight to it. In societies where abortion is readily available and not prohibitively expensive, it doesn't have to be more than an "oops" and a minor paint in the ass.
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Re: Based on #6

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2021-03-08 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I think the media portrays it that way to scare women out of having them.
Edited 2021-03-08 01:21 (UTC)

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
You're not wrong.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
You're not wrong (2)

That said, I think it's less that the media itself wants to scare women out of having abortions, and more that the political right wants to scare women out of having abortions, and the media is scared of alienating the political right and cares more about the bottom line than it cares about what message it's conveying to the public.

The end result is the same, it's just that the motivations which go into building said result are more circuitous.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Or as a way of appeasing the anti-abortion segment of the audience while still being able to write a particular story line (having their cake and eating it too) or just for DRAMA.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I learned about gay and lesbian people from Married With Children. I know I would have learned about LGBTQ people sooner or later, but I watched those episodes when I was still very young and just figured gay and lesbian people were like everybody else, except they liked their own gender. I was shocked when my church started condemning them and nobody could give me a good explanation for why homosexuality was wrong.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
No idea about the first question but, I keep talking about how reading/watching NANA was more of a positive influence to me in regards to, uh, having safe sex and living carefully as a woman than any sex ed class in school.

I felt really strongly about not wanting to be like Nana Komatsu when I went to college. MAYBE it's the only thing that kept me fully away from the path of dating band guys and ruining my life.
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Re: Based on #6

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-03-08 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
We never even got sex ed. We were split into boys and girls. We each got taught about our own body parts and about baby gestation (and it was explained as babies, not as fetuses). Then boys got the "sex is wrong, here's how to deal with temptation" lecture and girls got the "don't tempt boys, we know you don't understand sex because all you want is romance, but wait for the boys to ask you out because as men they lead" lecture. Oh how I hate that school.

Given that I had already started thinking about sex before we got the lectures, I thought there was something wrong with me. Fanfic and a few late night tv shows I caught because I couldn't sleep were my sex education. And then porn. Porn surprisingly was how I first learned about condoms and began to think of them as normal. Eventually I figured out that it was perfectly normal for girls to have a sex drive too.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
My school was like that, too. Funny because well, 10 year old me only knew she wasn't interested and was slightly annoyed at anyone thinking she might want romance - I wanted to go to space! And play PSOne - but from there to "well, maybe I'm a-spec" took a long... Long while, and in that long while many a-spec girls get fooled into thinking they are prudes and get into abusive relationships and all that, and I know I was self-hating enough to do ALL of it. So I really thank NANA for at least slapping some sense into me like "being single's better than in bad company".

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's been years since I've thought about Nana, but I still remember thinking, "Man, I'm glad I'm not her", when I read the chapter where Hachi found out she was pregnant and didn't if Takumi or Nobu was her baby daddy.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Exactly this.

Re: Based on #6

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
When I was a little kid, an episode of Animaniacs made me hate everyone and everything related to string instruments. There was a Rita and Runt short where a violin-maker captured Rita because violin strings were made of "catgut," so he needed to well, gut cats to make them. It's actually just a play on words (catgut is what it's called but it was never made from cats), but for a while little me thought that was really how violins and other string instruments were made, which was really traumatizing because I had a pet cat. I don't remember how I learned the truth, but luckily it happened before I could humiliate myself in front of anyone who actually played one of those instruments.