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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-07 05:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #5175 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5175 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-03-07 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The biggest villains in our world do what they do because they are greedy or power-hungry or fueled by bigotry. A one-dimensional villain is a realistic portrayal of a villain. You think a billionaire who exploits people for personal gain has depth worth exploring? You think a power-hungry politician or world leader really gives a shit and is anything more than a shallow, greedy person? This fantasy where people see villains as people who were just "corrupted" is just that: a fantasy. Real-life villains aren't victims of the system that turned them evil; they are the system!

(Anonymous) 2021-03-07 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but like you said, those exist in real life already and are boring in stories. Cause they're predictable and mundane.

OP isn't saying anything about "realism," they're talking about storytelling. Hyper realism is not necessarily the best storytelling.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's why I enjoy fictional stories that are mostly fantasy/SF and over the top melodrama, not realism. I like it when villains in stories ARE more interesting and compelling than they generally are in the real world. If I wanted 1:1 reflection of the real world, I'd stick with literary realism and non-fiction.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
No real person was born evil. No real person can ever be as shallow as a cookie-cutter villain, because they've all lived entire lives that shaped them into being evil. Most of those lives would be boring to watch, sure, but they're not simple or shallow like a character, because they're real. Your attitude is honestly one of the most terrifying because people who think like you think they're not capable of becoming evil. Anyone can go down the path of evil at any time. You think you're immune because you're not "the system," it's those evil people. You could become one of the evil people who thinks they're good because your evil acts aren't motivated by selfish reasons like money or power. You think those kinds of evil people are fictional. You're wrong.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. A lot of absolutely brutal real-world harm is done by people who think they're doing the right thing. Terrorists think they're heroic underdogs (looking at you, QAnon, thinking you're doing something to protect children and "save America" and overthrow the evil Deep State). Lots of abuse is "for your own good" and the abuser really believes that.

Anybody can become the villain in someone else's story. People who don't realize that scare me a hell of a lot more than self-aware people who just think Loki is hot.