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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-03-07 05:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #5175 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5175 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-03-07 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I will agree to the extent that I think it's really important to be careful about what is textual and is not textual, and it's really important to keep in mind the fact that multiple interpretations can coexist, and not get unnecessarily aggro.

But I'm also very cautious about how far to push that.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-07 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

99% of the time, it's not textual.

It's not even subtextual. It's just not there. It's somebody deciding that their favourite male character from whatever book/film/game/anime/series whatever is transmasc is transmasc now because they are. Where it's not even open to interpretation, they're just male but they decided to make them transmasc and give them top surgery scars which literally don't exist in canon. Or make a quite obviously white character black for no real reason besides 'well he's my favourite but white people suck, so he's black now'.

And that's fine, absolutely fine. You can do what you want. Just tag it and people can avoid it without stumbling into a mire of crappy fanon bullshit when they want to see characters they like depicted as intended.

It's seriously okay until the point where they start getting shitty at people who don't share their totally made up fanon about it.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
It makes me think of the Naoto thing in Persona 4 in particular which... well, to me it's totally fine whatever your headcanon is, in any circumstance. But I'd rather have you tag it. Just like I hate seeing OCs in fanfics, or OOC/AUs for the most part I also don't like having you present the character as being conflicted about an issue (i.e. transitioning in the case of Naoto!) that was never an issue in canon.

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
It makes me think of anyone from Asian media. Naoto's fans are especially nasty though, because they will completely discard the true societal commentary about being a woman in a men's workspace in Japan, you know, the thing that led Naoto to disguise herself as a boy because people took him seriously then?! It always makes me blood boil a little because Persona fans seem to be eager to throw out everything about the game to fit one gender headcanon in its place.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2021-03-08 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, to me one has to be very blind AND mysoginistic to not see it as it was presented. Yes, it was a commentary on how gender is so irrelevant the same person could pass for a woman or man, yet only as a man she could be regarded highly as a professional. But you also have to be blindly mysoginistic and racist to not realize this doesn't only apply to Japan so. Yeah.