[ SECRET POST #5175 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5175 ⌋

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[fscom]

04. https://64.media.tumblr.com/8a704a0a01991e1f17f8adc5c54d4feb/913ae66b1923205e-37/s500x750/49161b1797f721a050589ecd47a666bac8272cf5.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

It does happen with female characters too. Honestly, though, I'm totally fine with actual headcanons, it's when people start thinking that their headcanons are Great Justice and you're oppressing [group] for not agreeing that it's a problem.

[erinptah]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is probably just an extension of garden-variety mainstream gender expectations. It's more acceptable for cis women to wear "men's" clothing or present themselves in masculine ways than it is for cis men to wear "women's" clothing or present themselves in feminine ways, probably because men's ways of being in the world are simply more respected. Thus it's easy to understand why even cis women would want to make use of them. Whereas (it is implied) nobody would want to look like or be a woman unless they absolutely had to, right, and therefore any man who looks feminine must be trans.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. It's part and parcel of the overall shitty state of gender identity, where a man being un-masculine in any way whatsoever can't be allowed to be a man, he must be some form of woman. I'm glad that breaking through expectations and flaunting expressions has allowed some transwomen to find out that they are trans but by the same token, if someone says they aren't trans they are cis and this is just how they dress/look/what they enjoy, no one has the right to say no, you're actually trans because I think so and look how woke I am.

It ain't woke if you're doing a full 360 and reinforcing shitty gender roles rather than breaking through them.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 to all of the above.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. There's literally nothing progressive about deciding that a man who isn't traditionally masculine must have actually been born female.

[(Anonymous)]

I will agree to the extent that I think it's really important to be careful about what is textual and is not textual, and it's really important to keep in mind the fact that multiple interpretations can coexist, and not get unnecessarily aggro.

But I'm also very cautious about how far to push that.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

99% of the time, it's not textual.

It's not even subtextual. It's just not there. It's somebody deciding that their favourite male character from whatever book/film/game/anime/series whatever is transmasc is transmasc now because they are. Where it's not even open to interpretation, they're just male but they decided to make them transmasc and give them top surgery scars which literally don't exist in canon. Or make a quite obviously white character black for no real reason besides 'well he's my favourite but white people suck, so he's black now'.

And that's fine, absolutely fine. You can do what you want. Just tag it and people can avoid it without stumbling into a mire of crappy fanon bullshit when they want to see characters they like depicted as intended.

It's seriously okay until the point where they start getting shitty at people who don't share their totally made up fanon about it.

[(Anonymous)]

It makes me think of the Naoto thing in Persona 4 in particular which... well, to me it's totally fine whatever your headcanon is, in any circumstance. But I'd rather have you tag it. Just like I hate seeing OCs in fanfics, or OOC/AUs for the most part I also don't like having you present the character as being conflicted about an issue (i.e. transitioning in the case of Naoto!) that was never an issue in canon.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought this was a Little Mouse on the Prairie secret for a second, which was exciting. Then it turned out to be yet another "other people's headcanons give me a sad" secret, which was less exciting.

[tabaqui]

I agree, because i *like* pretty men, all dressed up pretty, with long hair and a bit of eyeliner and a fabulous 'kimono' or something. Heels. Lingerie.

And a bit of stubble, and cussing a lot. :D

[(Anonymous)]

I absolutely hate this trend because all it's doing is reinforcing toxic masculinity by saying a man can't possibly be a real man if he's feminine in any way.

Give me pretty, feminine men who identify as men and are totally comfortable with presenting in a non-masculine way.

[(Anonymous)]

Give me that, too!

The way people have been so stuck in gender norms lately kind of irks me. Yeah, whatever, fuck genders alright.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's very cool to say trans girls projecting onto feminine male characters by headcanoning them as also trans girls is reinforcing toxic masculinity. It's toxic in another sense if they get so protective of their headcanon that they attack other fans, but that's a different thing.

[(Anonymous)]

... this has nothing to do with trans girls? it's about people headcanoning male characters as being trans guys, and yeah, it's pretty suspect when it's only ever the feminine male characters who get headcanoned as being trans.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, to each their own when it comes to headcanons. Though personally I find it funny (as in pathetic) that if I project my own sexuality on a character that makes me problematic (as I've seen people argue before) but transfolk projecting being trans are OK.

[(Anonymous)]

Give me more trans headcanons for character likes Argo Gulskii. Not all the tiny bishounens. Big buff lesbian transwomen.

[(Anonymous)]

Or heck, how about some more canon trans guy characters like Tiger from My Hero Academia? Big, buff, muscular trans dude, nothing outwardly feminine about him at all.

[(Anonymous)]

It's just like how Black Month (?I think it was named that way) was more about people racebending white and asian characters to black instead of focusing on actual dark skinned characters. What is available is never what they want so they dismiss it for fanon.

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder if the people pumping out all these “why do those people have to headcanon everyone trans” secrets realize how much they sound like the “why do you people have to make everyone gay” crowd from 20 years ago. Seriously, the arguments are so similar that they could have been pulled from a rant on someone’s “I’m a good Christian girl” ffnet profile.

[(Anonymous)]

I know reading comprehension is a challenge for you but this is not about "why are there so many trans headcanons" but rather "why do a majority of people fall into the heaviest gender essentialism when they go for their trans headcanons and then insist they are being progressive".
And people insisting their headcanons are fact and everyone not agreeing is (headcanon)-phobic was annoying 20 years ago as well as today. Just that it's much more prevalent now.

[(Anonymous)]

I just listened to a trans therapist on a podcast who said that using social media to get your validation vitamins can cause problems, which is something I feel more now that lgbtq communities are getting trolled again by people using decades old debates over language and rep.

[(Anonymous)]

But who will think of the children?