[ SECRET POST #5181 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5181 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

lol this is what I did writing fics for supernatural. My entire foundation of knowledge is from other fics and memes posted by my mutuals.

[meadowphoenix]

fic is pretty tropey in that fandom so that's a good way to get an audience

[(Anonymous)]

lol what fandom could this possibly be

[(Anonymous)]

Lmao That was me when I started writing Fushigi Yugi fics way back in the day.

[(Anonymous)]

The Old Guard? If so I do get it. I feel like the characters get the Thor-poptarts treatment at times.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

You got it. I know it's judgey, but I think some people write them, uh, immature for being centenarians.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

They absolutely do. And they woobie them. And when they woobie them, they woobie very much the wrong characters. It's my personal pet peeve.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

(LMAO, seriously. You're gonna woobify Nicky when a perfectly good Joe is right there? That's my take on it, anyway.)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

YES. YES YES YES.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it is a little risky if you don't have the source material, but if other fic has portrayed characters well enough, I think it's possible to go off of that.

And honestly, when I first started, I got praised for characterization for stuff I fucking lived and breathed, but looking back, I don't think the characters were fully in-character, they were just dramatic and bitchy at times. So whether or not you've experienced the source material, you never know what'll resonate with folks, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah characterization in fic is weird - for one thing, often characters in the source material are pretty broad and archetypal to start with; for another, the readers have their own ideas of what in-character is supposed to look like, which often depart widely from the original text anyway. it just seems like such a moving target.

[(Anonymous)]

I often think that decent writers who do this pick up on all the characteristics that are the accepted fanon.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the "accepted" characteristics in fanon are pretty far from the source. Fandom tends to villainize heroes and women while simultaneously woobifying actual villains. The best writers IGNORE accepted fanon interpretations and stick closely to the canon while having an understanding of the source's genre and how tropes are used in that genre.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Yes, that's pretty much what I meant. Didn't explain it clearly.

[(Anonymous)]

If it's The Old Guard, I think that's pretty reasonable - they're way more broad "types" than characters, and the comics art is appalling. (I have a high tolerance for bad comics art, but this was really bad.) But the movie is fun and worth watching.

[(Anonymous)]

The art is horrendously bad (both on an "art" level and on a "representation" level). I pretend the comics don't exist, frankly.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

The movie does look like fun! I'll definitely get around to it, I just haven't yet. :P

[(Anonymous)]

I'd bet my arm this is an Old Guard secret.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Sweet, I could use a third arm. :D

[(Anonymous)]

Oh boy. Oh boy. The Old Guard and J/N is my current fandom but I definitely have some THOUGHTS about the characterization and tropes that have developed (and I also apparently have at least some different opinions than OP, perhaps because I actually am knowledgeable about the source material...). I basically stay out of all discourse, though, because I just do not have the time or patience for all that wank. That is a fandom that is going to destroy itself sooner rather than later. In the meantime, I'll stick to reading and writing the fic I actually like.