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⌈ Secret Post #5209 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm in a fandom where the proshippers are the majority of the BNFs. A friend of mine on twitter makes personal posts about how uncomfortable they are with anybody adding incest to their ships, and of course, a pro-ship person entered the conversation to add about how cool incest is. My friend blocked them, and the pro-shipper went on to complain on their blog about how 'westerners' are obnoxious and too PC.

No one was doxxed, nor suicide-baited, nor stalked here in our fandom. But the occasional dogpiling does happen from pro-shippers which is why my friend was scared of it and blocked ASAP. In regards to what an extreme version of pro-shippers would look like, I believe the reylo fandom had an issue with pro-shippers doxxing each other, and pro-shippers forced Lindsay Ellis of twitter by trying to pick fights with her about a ship(? I know the Raya stuff came later, but that's how it started).

It's not like being a pro-shipper or anti is a sign of moral superiority. It's just the nature of internet discussions (especially on twitter) that make people into jerks. I ignore extreme examples of pro-shippers and antis being bad because I don't think it's unique to any side. I think it's how twitter behavior works now days.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm someone who would be classified as pro-ship, but I've definitely seen way too many pro-shippers show their asses for me to be comfortable calling myself one. I've pretty much washed my hands of the whole scene.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have much to add to this, but I'll give you a hug, anon. The internet sucks sometimes...

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks nonny. It was so disheartening, I can't even lie. I just kept thinking, "I thought we were better than this?"

I can at least say I'm much less stressed out now, lol. Pro-ship/anti discourse is A Lot to be subjected to on a constant basis.

[(Anonymous)]

Lindsay Ellis leftvTwitter because she equated all Asian-inspired media to Avatar the Last Airbender and couldn't handle the backlash.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I believe her argument was that a lot of cartoons now days are using ATLA as a model (which I don't think is a bad thing for cartoons to do, nor really false, ATLA is a good show). I don't think twitter got that nuance.

[(Anonymous)]

For what I saw, SHE choose to leave twitter when Asian people told her not to use a show made by white men as the example of the "best" Asian-inspired media because that was a bit racist. She doubled down on her position, then erased her twitter completely. While I don't doubt she has faced threats and worse for her views (After all, she has a thread on the kiwi farms and those people ARE awful and don't stop at doxxing) I am not sure this is a case of her being a victim of the "pro" shippers (a term that still confuses me as I am not sure someone can be pro all ships, while others be anti all ships)

[(Anonymous)]

Pro-shippers didn't force LE off twitter over a ship. She and another breadtuber were called out for shitty behavior regarding a topic they didn't understand, which they doubled down on, and then the Raya stuff happened, so Lindsay flounced.