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[ SECRET POST #5209 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5209 ⌋

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I've been following the pro vs. anti debates here for awhile. I was initially going to put in that "While I find both sides annoying, I find pro-shippers more so.." But it made the secret too wordy and honestly more nuanced secrets are less engaging.

On FS, I find both sides to be extremely defensive, strawmannning, and hyperbolic. However, there was a secret where someone said they didn't like pros or antis, and I thought proshippers really went over the edge in the comments. One of the comments was someone referring to antis as the "book burning murder squad." The context of the comment made it seem like they were being dead serious too. If anybody has a link to that secret and the discourse, you can throw it on here and all judge for yourselves.

I don't remember that secret. And that is a little extreme to call all antis that. What I would say is that there is an extremist portion of antis that is that, whereas I haven't seen the same sort of "murder squad" mentality of trying to throw people out of the internet and dogpiling them and reacting to disagreements by calling them evil even from the most extreme pro shippers. So I get where that person is coming from because that portion of the anti section does exist. But it isn't all of them, just the loudest part. And frankly I don't care if people are personally internally judging based on fictional preferences as long as they don't start trying to force their preferences on others, dogpile attack with nastiness just because of those fictional preferences, or hurt people in real life. Antis who stay in their own lane I have no problem with.

This is pretty much my stance too.

I got called a conservative for suggesting that that age of consent laws should have been adhered to for my family friend who got manipulated into a coercive relationship with an adult and got pregnant for it, funnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn......

I don't have the link, but I remember that discussion you mentioned. There have been other discussions on here too about the same topic, and people on the pro-ship side love to make it seem like people who don't want to interact with uncomfortable stuff are literally Stalin or nazis. "Ooh! A historical event of genocide and cultural destruction where real people died! Let me go ahead and compare people who are angry at my underage/adult fic to that!" Come on...

Me: hey I'd like it if people under the legal age of consent were not encouraged to have sex without decent sex ed that includes advice over how to avoid bad relationships with people who might want to take advantage of them sexually.

some person on F!S: uuuuuhhhhhh you're an abstinence-only supporter, sweaty :)

Keep lyin', anti

OP. This was another thing I saw on that thread and here. Some people would talk about their bad experiences with proshippers. And the pros would accuse them of lying. Like yeah, this person could be lying, any of us could be. But that person's story is definitely not out of the realm of possibility on FS.

OP again. Additionally, I just saw the comments saying to this person, that's not how your argument went. No issue with those. But "keep lyin anti" is shitty.

You realise that pretty much anyone reasonable now tends to believe AYRT?

I mostly remember pointing out that your argument based on a single anecdote was flawed because teen pregnancy can and does happen whether or not there's an age gap, and at the time you seemed fixated on the pregnancy being the problem rather than the, you know, illegality of that particular relationship. I suspected you argued in bad faith and this historical revisionism proves it.

I have seen antis literally chase people off of social media. LGBT people and women, mostly. It makes me roll my eyes that people don't realize how often it's minorities that antis attack. So fuck off with your "but they're NOT the book burning murder squad" when antis have deaths to their names.

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