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⌈ Secret Post #5211 ⌋

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Re: Disney question

[(Anonymous)]

Take this with a grain of salt because I don't have kids, but honestly, IMO, people overthink this stuff. It's not as simple as "kids are sponges, they soak up toxic messages indiscriminately and it warps them for life". Do the Disney movies contain some problematic concepts, especially when it comes to body image for women? Absolutely. Are some messages better than others? Sure. Will kids even notice? Ehhh... depends on the age, and the kid.

Disclaimer time - I didn't grow up imbibing Disney movies and I wasn't immersed in all the princess stuff. I don't have any nostalgia goggles for Disney stuff, it doesn't interest me at all. Barbies were my thing, so you still have similar issues re: body image. As a kid, I didn't notice. Barbies weren't like human females, they were dolls. I didn't grow up thinking I ought to have giant, gravity-defying tits and a tiny waist. I wanted to be like Barbie in the sense that I had a giant wardrobe, a house and a pony and she was an adult who could do whatever the hell she wanted. (I don't have a nostalgia thing for Barbie, either.)

I'd say sure, let the kid watch (because you'd have to live in a cave in the mountains to avoid Disney stuff from outside sources) and be open to discussion but don't try to force moral messages or make it into a lesson. If you want to gently probe about certain ideas, ask the kid what they think about Gaston... does he seem like a nice person? Would he be a good friend to have? Why or why not? Listen to the answer, then maybe offer your take but don't be ham-handed about it.

And just in general, foster an environment with your kid so that they'll feel comfortable talking to you about anything at all, without getting in trouble or getting yelled at or ridiculed. That'll yield good results for life.

Re: Disney question

[(Anonymous)]

I wanted to be like Barbie in the sense that I had a giant wardrobe, a house and a pony and she was an adult who could do whatever the hell she wanted.

Yes, this!

I consumed tons of media as a kid and played with Barbies, and most of the people I know with issues around weight and body shape were either around bullying as kids or had toxic parents who told them they were fat.

Re: Disney question

[(Anonymous)]

Yeeeeeeep. The kid I knew who had the biggest issue with that sort of thing was my sister's classmate whose parents wouldn't let the kids have any sort of sweets ever (pretty sure mom had a serious obsession with being thin), so every time she came over to our house she would want to stuff herself on cookies because she never got to have them otherwise.

Re: Disney question

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but this is me; my dad was literally insane (diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia after I'd reached adulthood and could buy and cook whatever I wanted) about it. Every time I see parents be eating-disorder-by-proxy strict with their kids I want to scream "your kid's relationship with food and you is gonna be fucked for their whole life if you don't ease up, go buy them something deep-fried right now!"

Every time I try to limit what or how much I eat I have panic attacks.

Re: Disney question

[(Anonymous)]

I grew up eating as much sweet crap as I wanted and fried food and I was an obese kid, developed an eating disorder in my teens and my health and relationship with food are both permanently fucked from my poor childhood diet.

Re: Disney question

[(Anonymous)]

DA - I loved Barbies and the Disney Princesses, and I very much did internalize the idea that you had to be thin and pretty in order to matter. However, I think in any situation it's always more complicated than just "The media gave me low self-esteem and an eating disorder."

I was a deeply anxious child. My upbringing was unstable in a lot of ways. I was emotionally and psychologically vulnerable. I was struggling hard to make sense of a world that seemed hostile, and I was only four or five years old. I was already unwell; the media just shaped some of that unwellness in certain ways.