[ SECRET POST #5215 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5215 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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06. [SPOILERS for The Falcon and the Winter Soldier]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of child grooming]



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08. [WARNING for discussion of rape/sexual assault]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Can someone dumb this down for me? Maybe it’s the font confusing my eyes, or maybe there’s a chunk of a sentence missing somewhere, but I can’t parse what OP is saying.

[kallanda_lee]

I watch this show and still am not QUITE sure what exactly OP means.

[sparklywalls]

I'm not sure either. I don't think the show is character-assassinating Steve any more than fans unhappy with his Endgame arc already did.

The latest episode kinda went there with the "Steve was a bit of a dick to his two friends doing what he did" but not particularly strongly and it was channelled through Bucky. Otherwise the show seems to be holding Steve up as an ideal if anything?

[philstar22]

They don't like original MCU Captain America, and they don't think he was given enough of an character arc (meaning, I think, they thought he was samey throughout). Because of this, they are sad at the missed opportunity and think that The new Captain America of the Falcon and Winter Soldier tv show making the Captain America role in general look bad would have worked better if Steve-Cap had more of an arc to go on and had been a better character.

They seem to think that Steve-Cap was as much a symbol only as the new Cap and was a flat character apart from being a symbol of an American ideal. So for them the contrast doesn't work because it isn't strong enough.

I don't agree with them at all, but I think that's what they are saying.

[sparklywalls]

Ah ok, I think I get it now. And I think I also don't agree.

Wasn't Steve picked for the programme for being a guy who you wouldn't expect to be that sort of symbol? And Wyatt was obviously set up as the opposite of that for being highly decorated and having done X number of things in service plus being how the powers that be see themselves. I'm not saying it's perfect (nor that Steve was always handled perfectly) but it's basically an anvil to the head about how unsuitable the script thinks Wyatt is by comparison and despite some of the cruddy decisions with Steve's character journey, he was consistently seen to be putting personal glory behind what he felt was right.

[philstar22]

Yup. Exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, Steve was picked because he was an underdog and got a lot of shit throughout life, and the doctor (whose name I can't spell and am too lazy to google) thought that would keep the power from going to his head