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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-18 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #5217 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5217 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-04-18 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The early mythology episodes were pretty good, because you didn't know at the time how little planning or decent resolution there'd be. It's easy to introduce lots of tantalizing mysteries, but finishing them satisfyingly is much, much harder.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-18 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally disagree.

The early plot arc episodes aren't good primarily because they introduce lots of mysteries. They're good because they're fucking good episodes of television. They're taut, well-made, intriguing, full of mysterious vibes, exciting, thrilling. The fact that they also have a broader context that they're supposed to fit into is only one part of that.

If you look at Piper Maru / Apocrypha for example - the idea that we're eventually going to find out what the deal is with the black oil is only one of the attractive and entertaining things about the episode, and focusing on that to the exclusion of the character drama, thrills, shock, etc is a big error in my opinion.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-18 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I'm not as much of a fan of them as you are, and that's fine.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-19 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Meh, yes and no. I do think the writing in the earlier Mytharc episodes was stronger than the writing became later on, and I do still like the early mytharc episodes. The show was still in self-generation mode in the early seasons. It was still forging itself and breaking new ground. A certain creative laziness set in in later seasons. The show became self-involved, to a degree.

OTOH, the questions the early Mytharc episodes made one ask were a big part of what made them taut, intriguing television. And once you know that most of the questions don't have coherent answers, a lot of what's great about those episodes begins to feel a bit hollow, IMO.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-19 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Intriguing, maybe, but taut, I disagree that the mytharc stuff is why those episodes were taut - I think they generally did a good job of writing taut, high-stakes thrillers in most of those myth episodes. They really hold up.