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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-19 06:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #5218 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-04-19 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, a lot of it was (not so thinly) veiled racism. People would hold things like being manipulated by an Argent against him - as if that didn't happen to Derek - or making similar mistakes that Stiles would.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Nayrt and I'm not in this fandom but can you expand a little bit on the racism point?

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
tyler posey (the actor who portrays scott) is mexican.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
But the character is white, right? It seems like a stretch to suggest that the character is white but the people who dislike the character are primarily motivated by the fact that the actor's mother was Mexican?

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
At minimum his character is half, because I believe his dad is portrayed as a POC but I can't remember if his mom is, it's been a long time since I've watched the show.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
I thought Melissa, with her maiden name of Delgado, was supposed to be of Mexican descent. And his father, played by Matthew Del Negro, was supposed to be white. I thought it was supposed to mirror Tyler Posey's ethnicity (his father is actor John Posey, who played Dr. Fenris in a Teen Wolf webisode).

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Or people arguing how him healing a dog was a sign of him being an abusive monster? Honestly that fandom was a fucking hell-ride and a half.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
In what universe is Derek being a hormonal teenager who was taken advantage of by an older woman not knowing she was a psychotic werewolf hunter planning to murder his entire family even remotely comparable to the shit Scott did in season two while knowing exactly what kind of person Gerard was?
Also I don't really remember him being manipulated by Gerard. Though maybe I'm forgetting something, it's been awhile.
I do remember him and Deaton conspiring to murder Gerard using an unwilling Derek as a weapon, because of course the future 'True Alpha' can't get his hands dirty by just poisoning that fucker directly instead of going with that convoluted plan.

I'm not fond of Scott, he has his moments where I somewhat like him, but overall I really don't for many reasons (and from what I've read I'd probably like him even less if hadn't stopped watching after season 4) and it has exactly nothing to do with racism. Not saying that isn't the case with some people, but I've seen this accusation thrown around quite a bit without any justification.

Actually I probably wouldn't dislike him so much if the show wasn't so intent on convincing me he was great guy, while showing me very little evidence of that.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
NARYT.

That story was so utterly nonsensical that I didn't get annoyed at the character, it made me got 'wtf' at the writers because no actual human being would ever do something so ridiculously convoluted, never mind a teenager who very specifically wasn't shown as being the kind of character who could scheme like that. I'm not saying it was OOC, because I think by that point any consistent characterization for most of them had been thrown out the window, it was just a plot that made me tilt my head and sheer bafflement at the screen while I was watching.

But then Teen Wolf and good writing: it never knew her.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Also I don't really remember him being manipulated by Gerard. Though maybe I'm forgetting something, it's been awhile.

Gerard LITERALLY brought in a transformed Jackson into his bedroom and threatened his mom unless he did what he said!

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you know the meaning of the word 'manipulation'.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-20 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
Okay I don't mean to sound edgy, but I don't think that really holds outside of the US. He's obviously American, whatever his background. There's no obvious distinction. Also, nobody hated Melissa and by your logic shouldn't she have been equally loathed?