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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-05-06 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #5235 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5235 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-05-07 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that not having a single Chinese MC was a really bad call. That said, I've always wondered whose call it was. Because it may well have been Joss' call, but it seems equally possible it was the network's call. Like, given Simon and River's last name it kind of feels like they were meant to be at least part Chinese—but then they went and cast white people in the roles. Also, the fact that they cast Summer Glau...kind of feels like they cast the most "Eastern-looking" white girl they could find? *winces*

And on the one hand, Joss is an asshole, and it's clear that he's shitty at behaving in accordance with the ideals he claims to hold, so I'm not super inclined to defend him or anything. But otoh, I could 100% see the network going, "You already have two black MCs and a Brazilian-American MC; you can't have two Asian MCs too, that's too many! Less than half of your MCs will be white!! You're going to alienate your white audience!!! You can have your black characters, because that's the kind of representation Americans actually give half a shit about, and you can have a drop-dead gorgeous and borderline white-passing sex worker character because that's ~exotic~ and actually we prefer when the heavily sexualized characters are POCs. But that's it, that's where we're putting our foot down!"

(Anonymous) 2021-05-07 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhh... yeah, it could easily be a network decision (I mean, I've seen some networks try to insist that African God characters are given white castings, so that's totally believable) but it's probably worth noting that, given that people have presumably been in space for years, probably mixing racially in various ways for generations, it's not THAT out there for somebody of a non-specific white racial appearance to have a currently racially specific surname, especially if they pass in a similar way to now.

If their surname was intended to be East Asian it's not out there that they had one male Chinese ancestor 5 generations ago and various European or mixed people marrying in and retaining the surname since.

While he should have definitely had a Chinese actor in some role in the series, it's kind of easy to explain that shit away in future homogenised science-fiction land.

'cos let's face it, a White/Chinese couple will have a mixed looking child. If that mixed child has children with somebody white, and then that child does the same, the result is going to be pretty much European in appearance by that point. Hell, I know somebody with one Indian (from India) grandparent and they basically look white. Light brown hair, blue eyes, skin as pale as my own. English first name, Indian surname. They're used to the "Really?" by this point.

Joss Whedon is definitely a tool and he definitely doesn't have a varied enough cast considering the setting, but as a science fiction writer myself, I don't think it's too out there for a white looking person to have an East Asian surname.

It's pretty fuckin' out there to have a Chinese/English language space setting and have no overtly Chinese looking characters though, especially when there's that one obviously miscellaneous Slavic guy in one/more of the episodes.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-07 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you can make that excuse for any one character - my kid is white/Asian and looked very much white until he was about 11, and people didn't believe that he and his sister were full siblings - but you're right that it's just one small symptom of a much much bigger problem.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-07 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
I always assumed Summer Glau was at least part Asian. Was I wrong?

(Anonymous) 2021-05-07 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
Scots Irish and German ancestry according to Wikipedia.

(Anonymous) 2021-05-07 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think Morena Baccarin is a POC, actually. Wikipedia lists her as a Brazilian of Italian descent.