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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-05-19 05:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #5248 ]


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Re: What things have been annoying you lately?

[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-05-20 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
I mean that's a post-hoc determination for real people, in that you can only say people aren't capable of change when they're dead and haven't done so visibly, and even then that can only mean that the threshold that would convince them to change is higher than reasonable or available (or that they have changed in that they would not now react the same as in the past but aren't retroactively indicating that to the people they may have harmed), not that they are incapable of doing so. There's plenty of people who feel remorse but won't show it. Your worldview seems to conflate the social aspects of change, which require demonstration, with the internal mechanisms of change, which are impossible to determine if they were triggered externally.

I think there's a very big difference between "this is enough to restore you to society" which requires some cooperation from the people you harmed and the people who have witnessed or have knowledge about your deeds and "your worldview is more ethical" and while it's reasonable to have a standard for the former that someone may never reach, that doesn't mean the latter was or is impossible or hasn't happened. it just means that it doesn't meet the standard of the former that other people in society will or can accept.